STEAM Actually comming to FRC, and im not happy

[Cole Cyr]

Originally Posted by tjf

Building a good robot *is* an art, and some of the stuff people make for FIRST is definitely artsy. But to add art, being the arts, to the aspects that they try to preach, it enables FIRST to be a surrogate educator in every traditional class.

Is it such a bad thing? #musicgame2018

Music game... would you want any aspect of the game to be subjective and have an effect on the points system. you gain extra points if the judges deem your robot good looking... thats the path were on.

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by Cole Cyr

you gain extra points if the judges deem your robot good looking... thats the path were on.

Presumably you have more "evidence" for this claim?

I'm not seeing a lot of real evidence for the claims you are making. This seems like another one.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Cole Cyr

Music game... would you want any aspect of the game to be subjective and have an effect on the points system. you gain extra points if the judges deem your robot good looking... thats the path were on.

I assume you meant refs or zebras. They wear the striped shirts and their territory, the field, is shared with the FTAs. Judges wear the blue shirts (or red shirts for Safety Judges[1], I'm pretty sure that color is used in Canada too) and tend to have little to do with the field.

Judges have nothing to do with points but it may surprise you to know that if the judges like how your robot looks it's more likely you end up with a judged award. (which I guess counts as points in Districts). "BUT THATS UNFAIR RAWR ART SHOULDN'T COUNT" I can hear you screaming now. But it's fairly obvious, judges are people and tend to better recall things they liked seeing.

Top tips for talking to judges - clean pit, clean appearance, and be confident about your stuff. I KNOW I've given awards to teams over other teams because the students articulated things better or because I didn't see literal garbage strewn about a pit.

So, no, we're not ON that path, we've gone down that path and are now having a nice picnic.


[1] Which I've always found kinda funny, isn't it the red shirts in star trek that always die?

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

[1] Which I've always found kinda funny, isn't it the red shirts in star trek that always die?

In the original series, yes (red shirts were worn by operations, which included security personnel, so it makes sense they were on the front lines). That changed in later series, though, as the uniform colors changed (and there were significantly fewer deaths in the later series as well).

And now we return to your regularly scheduled topic...