[FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[EricH]

Originally Posted by TDav540

Can someone explain to me why we use CD time? Everyone seems to get confused/not care about it, and, from my perspective, it's just easier to check that little box in the corner than remember that CD time is behind actual time.

Standard time reference.

Actually I just sent Brandon a PM to see if that could be fixed. I consider 5 minutes slow to be unacceptable with the clocks at home...

[Harrison.Smith]

Originally Posted by EricH

Standard time reference.

Actually I just sent Brandon a PM to see if that could be fixed. I consider 5 minutes slow to be unacceptable with the clocks at home...

We are interested in this also. Just lost a pick due to this.

[TDav540]

Why couldn't everyone just check that with this then?

[Harrison.Smith]

Originally Posted by TDav540

Why couldn't everyone just check that with this then?

TRF would be in support of this.

[JosephC]

It's the time that gets posted above posts, it keeps things consistent instead of people arguing about timing. You can't really argue with the time above posts. I also see no reason to have to have another tab open as a draft runner that i have to constantly check when i already have multiple tabs open dedicated to the draft that I need to check. It's really not that hard to scroll down to the bottom of the page guys.

[EricH]

Time is good. TimeSTAMP is what gets the post.

As I said, I've sent Brandon a PM to reset the CD clock--it obviously needs it for time-dependent items.


I would also note that when lists are sent in, they are considered effective whenever the slot opens--which would be when they're the next pick up (or the time turns to that slot, if someone isn't showing up).

[frcguy]

Originally Posted by Cothron Theiss

Ok, thanks! If someone else sees this and becomes consumed with the idea of creating a stand-alone Champs league, I'll probably try and participate. But I'd say it's a bad idea to try and start a league myself without ever having played. Maybe next year.

I'm also interested in a stand alone draft but I'm in the same boat as Cothron in terms of not wanting to run it because of inexperience.

[JosephC]

Originally Posted by frcguy

I'm also interested in a stand alone draft but I'm in the same boat as Cothron in terms of not wanting to run it because of inexperience.

I'd recommend making a separate post to gauge interest and gather members, the SLFF main thread isn't the place to setup a non-SLFF draft.

[JosephC]

In lieu of a skew of issues with live drafting so far, I've decided to make a small "How to live draft" guide.

#1 - Keep an eye on ChiefDelphi time, it's approximately 5 minutes and 20 seconds behind the actual time. It is located at the bottom of the page, and this is the time we use for every draft.

#2 - Refresh the page before you post.

#3 - You're available to pick when the following conditions are met.
Your pick slot is up based on chiefdelphi time, or the person with the time slot before yours has picked.

#4 - Make sure the team you are picking is attending the event, and has not already been picked.


Or you can just send in a list, it's easier for everyone trust me.

[TDav540]

I'd like to propose that randomization for the next series happen at the conclusion of tomorrow's drafts (Miami Valley and Central Valley). That gives teams plenty of time to analyze which picks they own for the next set and prepare trade offers if they so choose.

Also, everyone should read Joseph's post, because it's spot on.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by JosephC

#4 - Make sure the team you are picking is attending the event, and has not already been picked.

One extra thing to expand on #4 is to make sure that you are typing the correct team number that you want to pick. I know this has been an issue with 2502 and 2052 at their respective Minnesota regionals, for example, but it's always easy to let a typo slip through. There are over 6000 team numbers - make sure you're typing the right one.

[TDav540]

Falcon and Questionable Decisionmakers have completed a trade and it is currently available for review:

Falcon Receives:
#9 Ventura
#10 Ventura
#3 Central Valley

Questionable Decisionmakers Receive:
#1 Ventura
#18 Ventura
#4 Central Valley

[MARS_James]

So I have been thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while about the COI drafts. I think that if you are in need of a COI draft it is unfair if you are first pick, both to you and the league as a whole as whoever is second pick effectively gets to be first pick twice in a row. So I propose if a COI draft is called that event becomes a specific draft order for that round, basically we skip the normal rotation for that draft and switch it with the draft where the person in need of COI is at a specific location in the draft. I believe this position should be the middle spot (rounded down) so since we have 9 this year it would be position 5, if we have 8 it would also be position 5 since it is rounded down.

The reason for this specific position as I feel that the middle spot has the least impact on the draft, since putting them last basically gives the person who is second to last a 2 pick swing.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

So I have been thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while about the COI drafts. I think that if you are in need of a COI draft it is unfair if you are first pick, both to you and the league as a whole as whoever is second pick effectively gets to be first pick twice in a row. So I propose if a COI draft is called that event becomes a specific draft order for that round, basically we skip the normal rotation for that draft and switch it with the draft where the person in need of COI is at a specific location in the draft. I believe this position should be the middle spot (rounded down) so since we have 9 this year it would be position 5, if we have 8 it would also be position 5 since it is rounded down.

The reason for this specific position as I feel that the middle spot has the least impact on the draft, since putting them last basically gives the person who is second to last a 2 pick swing.

So what you're proposing is that this draft be moved in the rotation so that the person calling the COI is sitting position 5? That sounds reasonable to me.

[jlmcmchl]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

So I have been thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while about the COI drafts. I think that if you are in need of a COI draft it is unfair if you are first pick, both to you and the league as a whole as whoever is second pick effectively gets to be first pick twice in a row. So I propose if a COI draft is called that event becomes a specific draft order for that round, basically we skip the normal rotation for that draft and switch it with the draft where the person in need of COI is at a specific location in the draft. I believe this position should be the middle spot (rounded down) so since we have 9 this year it would be position 5, if we have 8 it would also be position 5 since it is rounded down.

The reason for this specific position as I feel that the middle spot has the least impact on the draft, since putting them last basically gives the person who is second to last a 2 pick swing.

A problem still arises in this situation if two teams have approved COIs for a draft. If we have the first and last picks, which are the strongest positions to draft from (At least, for deeper events) declare and approve COI, what rotation do we choose? Say, for two teams that declare COI, they're at positions 1 and 6 in that draft. If we choose the rotation that moves 1 to the 5th draft spot, then the 6th place w/ an approved COI would be in the 1st position for the draft, leaving us with the same conundrum.


Instead, I propose this as a solution:

Remove all teams which have submitted a COI from the draft list, and mention them elsewhere as having a COI draft for that event. This should probably be in the SLFF Draft Spreadsheet.

For the remaining participating teams, randomize the draft order independent of the current rotation, and proceed to draft normally with the participating teams.

For the COI teams, leave their picks as COI until the corresponding FRC event has completed and assign them teams at random off the top of the random list. (I believe this is the same as COI Draft Implementation in the new rules)

While this does undermine our goal of rotating everyone through 1st pick, it's just one draft very infrequently and doesn't mean much in the full scale of SLFF. With as many drafts as we run, it won't cause us to deviate significantly from this intention.