[FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[EricH]

Got a couple of announcements and reminders.

1) No drafts tomorrow, folks. Enjoy the evening off. Tech Valley and Greater Pittsburgh are Wednesday night. If you see those drafts pop up, don't sweat it, you aren't late (until Wednesday).

2) For the draft runners, I just uploaded an updated version (3.2.3) of the program. The only change is to allow lists with "Random" to, well, pick random, automatically. Next up are a couple of changes to do the same for random rookies and possibly a couple of other minor tweaks (think "convenience"--like being able to just rotate the player list from the last time, or being able to tell at a glance which player(s) have lists).

3) We're still looking for someone to run Bayou, a week from tomorrow. That's the only hole left (other than a possible one in Colorado on 12/11).


Oh, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've made it for 20 drafts from season start with perfect attendance, ever. Usually I've sent at least one boot warning by now...

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by EricH

3) We're still looking for someone to run Bayou, a week from tomorrow. That's the only hole left (other than a possible one in Colorado on 12/11).

I can handle Colorado no worries, not Bayou though it is on our regular meeting time and we have a field to build

[EricH]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

I can handle Colorado no worries, not Bayou though it is on our regular meeting time and we have a field to build

We have a volunteer for Bayou, think we're good!

[jlmcmchl]

Eric,

Have you been able to determine if we were planning to use the old ranking points system (20 12 12 6 6 ...) or the district ranking points system for scoring?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl

Eric,

Have you been able to determine if we were planning to use the old ranking points system (20 12 12 6 6 ...) or the district ranking points system for scoring?

Not yet.

Edit: On further review...

No determination. Any chance TBC can check the scoring system from last year? At this point in time, I don't see a reason to change the system from last year's, other than to exempt Culture Change awards from district averaging, and possibly to adjust district scoring (some discussion of removing inter-district points from the count and/or normalizing scores to two events rather than averaging all events).

[MARS_James]

Either I missed something or am misunderstanding.

In 2015 we switched over from giving the win loss points to the district ranking points because there was no win loss. I thought we kept the same in 2016 because our ranking wasn't based on win loss but on QP. Basically I thought we replaced the 2 points for a win 1 for a tie and 0 for a loss with the district ranking 2 years in a row (To also normalize the points between large and small events) but kept the ranking bonus points the same to reward the teams who understood how to rank well.

So did we switch it between the two years or keep it the same I honestly don't remember.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

In 2015 we switched over from giving the win loss points to the district ranking points because there was no win loss. I thought we kept the same in 2016 because our ranking wasn't based on win loss but on QP. Basically I thought we replaced the 2 points for a win 1 for a tie and 0 for a loss with the district ranking 2 years in a row (To also normalize the points between large and small events) but kept the ranking bonus points the same to reward the teams who understood how to rank well.

So did we switch it between the two years or keep it the same I honestly don't remember.

I want to say that's correct, but I don't remember either. I'll try to figure that out at some point this week.

[BrennanB]

We kept it the same as 2015.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

We kept it the same as 2015.

I don't think we saw any issues with that, so we'll keep it the same again*.


*Unless the GDC completely removes ranking points or an equivalent from determining rank. In which case, we'll discuss fallback options. Discussion if any to start no earlier than 1/7/17 .

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by EricH

I don't think we saw any issues with that, so we'll keep it the same again*.


*Unless the GDC completely removes ranking points .

"Welcome to the 2017 FIRST Robotics Competition game Steamworks"

*90 seconds later*

"Steamworks like the industrial revolution does not have an anyone can succeed ranking system, instead the top teams are decided by who has the most blue banners historically, any ties will be broke by oldest blue banner. There will be no picking in the top 8 and no matches but instead exhibitions for the top teams to observe and decided who to hire for their alliance"

Fantasy FIRST then becomes basically a stockmarket instead of a Fantasy sports league

[jlmcmchl]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

"Welcome to the 2017 FIRST Robotics Competition game Steamworks"

*90 seconds later*

"Steamworks like the industrial revolution does not have an anyone can succeed ranking system, instead the top teams are decided by who has the most blue banners historically, any ties will be broke by oldest blue banner. There will be no picking in the top 8 and no matches but instead exhibitions for the top teams to observe and decided who to hire for their alliance"

Fantasy FIRST then becomes basically a stockmarket instead of a Fantasy sports league

We'll start investing in a full integration of BBQ into TBA and call it RIBMEATS instead of STEAM

[TDav540]

QD and Falcon have completed the following trade:
Falcon receives:
#4 and #15 at San Francisco
#2 and #17 at Rocket City

QD receives:
#2 and #17 at San Francisco
#9 and #10 at Rocket City

[MARS_James]

So how are we doing requests for teams who join an event after the draft, but before season starts? Waiver or first come first serve?

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

So how are we doing requests for teams who join an event after the draft, but before season starts? Waiver or first come first serve?

All team will be wavered. Highly prefered in a private way so teams don't snipe us for our hard work.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

All team will be wavered. Highly prefered in a private way so teams don't snipe us for our hard work.

This is highly challenging as everyone involved is on a team