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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

This is a great product that basically didn't exist before and is far cheaper / lighter than the previous COTS solution for this particular product. I think whining that the color isn't perfect is really not productive!

I also don't think this is, necessarily, inspired by the game. Compliant wheels have been gaining traction (heh) for years, for both intakes and shooters; for compliant game pieces or rigid ones. Did I mention the alternative was $30 on McMaster and with a hub weighed like a pound?

I'm curious to see how well these hold up at 5K RPM, and if they slip on the shaft or anything at that high of a speed.
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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

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... Compliant wheels have been gaining traction (heh) for years, for both intakes and shooters; for compliant game pieces or rigid ones.....I'm curious to see how well these hold up at 5K RPM, and if they slip on the shaft or anything at that high of a speed.
I'm not so sure these are well suited for shooters, but time, and testing, will tell.
AM does recommend them for intakes and conveyors though.
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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

Hey meme king Wil Payne can you edit the word "trap" to "hint"?

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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

I agree with the several of you who don't believe that this is some sort of game reveal. These wheels have been showing up on amazing robots for at least the past several years, so it is consistent with many other FRC products that get designed, developed or implemented with high level teams and eventually become COTS. My team was developing something similar within the past year, to be 3D printed using NinjaFlex. This new product makes that effort kind of obsolete.
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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

Frisbee intake wheels?
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Re: New AndyMark Product Game Hint???

Well if we truly believe these are specifically designed for this year's game they should be sold out within the week and will not be back in stock until mid to late March.
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I'm not so sure theseare well suited for shooters, but time, and testing, will tell. ...
I think these might be good for shooting some things. Maybe wiffle balls?

But the GDC would never do that to us, right?
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I think these might be good for shooting some things. Maybe wiffle balls?

But the GDC would never do that to us, right?
I have said GDC won't give us shooters next year before each of the following year;
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I think these might be good for shooting some things. Maybe wiffle balls?

But the GDC would never do that to us, right?
I drive past the one and only Wiffle factory every day and I've noticed no unusual activity lately. Plus, I probably would have heard something unless they're VERY good at keeping secrets. The place is smaller than most would think, considering every real Wiffle ball anyone has ever seen came from that little building.
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I'm curious to see how well these hold up at 5K RPM, and if they slip on the shaft or anything at that high of a speed.
I have similar concerns about the wheel slipping on the hex at high speeds but I think a pair of plates will keep the rubber from expanding near the hex.
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I'm curious to see how well these hold up at 5K RPM, and if they slip on the shaft or anything at that high of a speed.
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I have similar concerns about the wheel slipping on the hex at high speeds but I think a pair of plates will keep the rubber from expanding near the hex.
There's no way this wheel is going to work well at 5000 rpm. You wouldn't even want to use it as a shooter wheel. It's too compliant and it will buckle (that is if it doesn't explode).

Stick with the McMaster wheels if you want a nice compliant shooter wheel that isn't going to deform like crazy/explode on you.
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There's no way this wheel is going to work well at 5000 rpm. You wouldn't even want to use it as a shooter wheel. It's too compliant and it will buckle (that is if it doesn't explode).

Stick with the McMaster wheels if you want a nice compliant shooter wheel that isn't going to deform like crazy/explode on you.
Ok, so does anyone have any recommendations for shooter wheels that aren't $30 each? Are Colsons the best cheap alternative?
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Ok, so does anyone have any recommendations for shooter wheels that aren't $30 each? Are Colsons the best cheap alternative?
At a certain point you'll have to spend some money with some game objects.

Colsons worked for us in 2016, but in many other years didn't work nearly as well as more expensive options.

Considering the base price per axis in terms of speed control and motor, $30 per wheel really isn't that bad.

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Considering the base price per axis in terms of speed control and motor, $30 per wheel really isn't that bad.
Yes, if you already know the wheel is going to do the job as expected.

$30/ea for trial and error can get expensive.
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