Five Person Drive team in 2017

[jwfoss]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Teams still abuse it and sneak in and then I gottta go play bad cop....

Maybe the extra drive team member is the designated robot cart mover, so no one leaves carts everywhere... just for you Koko Ed.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Justin Montois

Somebody has to be the Drone Pilot

Something similar to this perhaps?

[The_ShamWOW88]

Interesting thoughts.

But I lean closer to the idea that we're getting one set for the season rather than new buttons each event, so a spare makes sense.

Fun to speculate though!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Something similar to this perhaps?

Or maybe a variation on this!

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Or maybe a variation on this!

We've been discussing the possibility of a flying drone as low, UNLESS it is attached to some sort of large inflatable that slows its movement, and makes it easy to spot...

[jaunvie]

Everyone's 4th drive team member sits on a Dunk tank ledge. At the end of the match the loosing team gets dunked. WATER GAME!

[EricH]

Originally Posted by jaunvie

Everyone's 4th drive team member sits on a Dunk tank ledge. At the end of the match the loosing team gets dunked. WATER GAME!

I think everybody'd be down for that--except the MVF* who drew Dunk Tank duty...



*Most Valuable Freshman. May also be a non-freshman pre-college student, who is depromoted to Freshman simply for the, er, privilege of having a chance at being dunked.

[Hitchhiker 42]

Originally Posted by SenorZ

We've been discussing the possibility of a flying drone as low, UNLESS it is attached to some sort of large inflatable that slows its movement, and makes it easy to spot...

We get to control blimps! Wooo

[ratdude747]

Originally Posted by Jpatterson1710

Yeah, the "Christmas Tree" is primarily why FIRST has updated the radio. The old D-Link radios failed to implement proper WiFi protocols, nor could they enforce bandwidth caps. Basically, WiFi protocol says that when packets are being dropped, the rate at which those packets are sent must be reduced, and the rate at which they are backed off must be random. The issue with the D-Link was that the rate at which they backed off was hard-coded as a set number. Therefore when the network got crowded and packets were dropped, all the radios on the field backed off and then tried to re-send packets at the same time. If you can imagine, that is exactly why the rate should be random, and thats why we saw the "Christmas Tree". Among other things, one of the major improvements with our new radio is that it does in fact back off at a random rate, following proper WiFi protocol. That said, the "Christmas Tree" is not impossible with the new radios, but it would be a very surprising. I personally don't know of a single occurrence it last year, and adding six feeds really shouldn't have much effect on the likely hood of a "Christmas Tree" type of occurrence.

Had we not updated radios, I would totally agree with you. Six additional feeds with the D-Link would absolutely increase the occurrence of the "Christmas Tree" among other things.

If anyone has more questions about what the "Christmas Tree" is(symptoms, causes, fixes) or if you'd like to hear why the recent changes are fixing this issue, feel free to PM me or quote/reply. I'd be happy to answer your questions!

At one of my events I scorekept at this year (I'd like to say warren district but my memory is shot) we did get a christmas tree due to Wifi interference (other networks on the same 5G channel), which was fixed by swapping WiFi channels.

That said, the new radios, from a field management point of view, were really awesome indeed. I'll take one christmas tree over an entire year over the mess the year before was. Especially during my stint on Hopper Field in 2015, where we suffered more christmas trees than the holiday section at Walmart.

[chrisrin]

Originally Posted by ctt956

...maybe a train

Ever since I heard the train whistle ring tone that was part of the first downloadable content pack, I've been thinking there could be, in addition to the usual custom bot, some sort of simple bots on rails that at part of the field like trains or perhaps elevated zeppelins that travel back and forth across the course on a cable. One for each team, and there would need to be an operator for each team... and thus the need for an extra drive team member. We'll find out soon enough

[Vyrotek]

Originally Posted by chrisrin

Ever since I heard the train whistle ring tone that was part of the first downloadable content pack, I've been thinking there could be, in addition to the usual custom bot, some sort of simple bots on rails that at part of the field like trains or perhaps elevated zeppelins that travel back and forth across the course on a cable. One for each team, and there would need to be an operator for each team... and thus the need for an extra drive team member. We'll find out soon enough

Agreed. Especially after seeing this wheel voucher.

http://www2.bwc.com/firstvoucher

[Ringo5tarr]

Overdrive style mini/end game confirmed?

[ratdude747]

Originally Posted by Ringo5tarr

Overdrive style mini/end game confirmed?

You mean LogoMotion? Overdrive had placing trackballs on the overpass for an endgame, no minibots.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by Vyrotek

Agreed. Especially after seeing this wheel voucher.

http://www2.bwc.com/firstvoucher

Does this really mean that we have a 2-hour window the day of kickoff (during the kickoff) to purchase 4 radial-loading and/or crown linear guide rollers made of stainless or carbon steel? That's a heck of a niche market we're dealing with here.

EDIT: Correction, crown rollers come in polymer as well as carbon steel, but the picture is of a steel radial, so it's not so clear what the bounds of the offer are.

[Vyrotek]

I also JUST saw the comment on the bottom of the voucher page. http://www2.bwc.com/firstvoucher

*Track is available on FIRST® Choice at Andy Mark

I'm not terribly familiar with what AndyMark First Choice usually stocks but I thought it was interesting that they emphasize it.

http://firstchoicebyandymark.com/search?q=track