Inter-District Play in 2017

[TJP123]

Originally Posted by IKE

I do not believe there will be a lot of open spots in Michigan unless we add another another event (a couple were added a couple weeks ago). That being said, we are now a large enough organization that we might have some pre-season fallout which could open up a few spots.

Relevant to this thread, the standard 40 team district format with 12 matches requires 80 matches for qualifying (every match counts). Each team added or removed increases or decreases the schedule by 2 matches effectively. With an early season cycle time of likely 7-ish minutes, adding a team basically adds about 15 minutes more towards the qualifying schedule. Later in the season, adding 1 is a bit less impactful as the cycle time tends to get faster with practice and experienced robots.

My fuzzy memory and math skills tell me there will be about 8 extra slots.

456* teams x 2 events = 912 slots needed
23 events x 40 teams = 920 slots

Fuzzy math skills tell me 920 - 912 = 8 extra slots



*Fuzzy memory tells me that was the number Gail gave

[Theseusgoats]

Hey Karthik, you guys should come to Indiana.

[Christopher149]

From the registration thread, there is a team from Israel (5715) signed up for FIM - Lake Superior State University.

[IKE]

Originally Posted by TJP123

My fuzzy memory and math skills tell me there will be about 8 extra slots.

456* teams x 2 events = 912 slots needed
23 events x 40 teams = 920 slots

Fuzzy math skills tell me 920 - 912 = 8 extra slots



*Fuzzy memory tells me that was the number Gail gave

Those were the numbers I was told a week or so ago. I would suspect that at least a few of those 456 teams (WOW) will drop out, but we should not plan on having a lot of open slots.

[bam-bam]

We have 8 teams from MI coming to the St. Joseph event (74, 226, 503, 2771, 3357, 4004, 5110, 5502). Subject to change, of course.

[first3234]

Originally Posted by bam-bam

We have 8 teams from MI coming to the St. Joseph event (74, 226, 503, 2271, 3357, 4004, 5110, 5502). Subject to change, of course.

I think you mean 2771

[bam-bam]

Originally Posted by first3234

I think you mean 2771

I do. My bad.

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

The St Joseph district event in IN has plenty of space for some out of state competitors.

1076 was originally planning on trying to come, and then we ended up hosting an event Week 2, soooo better luck next year ):

[Theseusgoats]

Not to be a party pooper, but with 8 MI teams coming to an Indiana District Event, I feel like the Indiana teams at the event will be at a major disadvantages as they are simply trying to get points, but they keep getting taken away by MI teams.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats

Not to be a party pooper, but with 8 MI teams coming to an Indiana District Event, I feel like the Indiana teams at the event will be at a major disadvantages as they are simply trying to get points, but they keep getting taken away by MI teams.

Tradeoffs. Live in a bubble and never meet a new team from someone far away, or lose a couple points because MI teams have magic mojo in the water that inherently makes them better than IN teams.

Or learn from these teams and use that as motivation to be better than them. Your choice! I personally think that anyone at the event will have a major advantage as they are able to play with high level teams and will understand the game way better than the teams that didn't attend the event.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats

Not to be a party pooper, but with 8 MI teams coming to an Indiana District Event, I feel like the Indiana teams at the event will be at a major disadvantages as they are simply trying to get points, but they keep getting taken away by MI teams.

8/31 is a chunk. And by my count, 13/31 are going to be Indiana teams playing their second scored event in two weeks (461, 1501, 1646, 1747, 2171, 2909, 3147, 3865, 3936, 3940, 4580, 4824, 4982). I don't think that's going to affect many of them, but that might affect some bubble aspirations. (Six of those teams finished last year either missing state or finishing bottom-five of the teams that made it.)

But as they say back in my homeland: to be the man, you gotta beat the man.

[Peyton Yeung]

Has there ever been an district event with this many outsiders?

I know at both of our last district qualifying events, 461 has seriously considered not picking in-state teams purely for district point reasons. Being on the bubble each year for points based spots to worlds, we count every potential point carefully.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung

Has there ever been an district event with this many outsiders?

Nope, and it should be fun to watch because if the out of district teams completely dominate the local teams, causing many to miss out on advancement to district champs, it may cause FIRST to put hard limits on how many slots at a district event can go to teams outside a district.

Originally Posted by Billfred

But as they say back in my homeland: to be the man, you gotta beat the man.

WOO!

[mdituri]

Originally Posted by marshall

Signed us up for the CHP Blacksburg event. On the waitlist so hopefully we'll get in but I don't have my hopes up.

3314 - The Mechanical Mustangs, look forward to seeing you at CHP Southwest Virginia, aka Blacksburg. Here is the list of interdistrict teams at our event:

223 - Xtreme Heat (MAR)
587 - Hedgehogs (NC)
900 - Zebracorns (NC)
3314 - Mechanical Mustangs (MAR)
3494 - The Quadrangles (IND)
4653 - Ironman Robotics (MAR)

We can't wait! We love competing against new teams. No room in NE this year but maybe 2018 we will be back. Definitely will be up in NE for Battlecry WPI in the Spring.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

Nope, and it should be fun to watch because if the out of district teams completely dominate the local teams, causing many to miss out on advancement to district champs, it may cause FIRST to put hard limits on how many slots at a district event can go to teams outside a district.

On-field, sure. But those Michigan teams are also ineligible for Chairman's, EI, and RAS. That means relatively light competition among Indiana teams. I don't think anyone unworthy would end up with those awards, but you've got to like your chances when only 22 teams can win the first two awards. (31 teams, 8 are Michigan, 1 is a rookie that wouldn't win Chairman's or EI but could win RAS if the judges deem them worthy.)

WOO!

I prefer this one.