[FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

[Ari423]

Originally Posted by DonRotolo

A half a dozen people with binoculars, plus a few carefully pointed video cameras should allow for enforcement. if Frank is reading this thread, I really urge him to think about and publicize some mechanism for enforcement so folks take it more seriously.

Frank: Target acquired. Section 227, Row 4, Seat 18. Take him out.
*laser pointer appears on teenager's forehead*


Maybe we can ask 254, 971, 1114, and 118 to team up and write a program that can tell where a paper airplane was thrown from based on where it landed. Or we can put big fans between the stadium seats and the fields pointed away so any paper airplanes get pushed back into the crowds.

[dradel]

Originally Posted by Ari423

Frank: Target acquired. Section 227, Row 4, Seat 18. Take him out.

*laser pointer appears on teenager's forehead*





Maybe we can ask 254, 971, 1114, and 118 to team up and write a program that can tell where a paper airplane was thrown from based on where it landed. Or we can put big fans between the stadium seats and the fields pointed away so any paper airplanes get pushed back into the crowds.

Laser pointers are against the rules 😝

[EricH]

Originally Posted by dradel

Laser pointers are against the rules 😝

Not robot-mounted Class 1 laser pointers that are NOT intended to interfere with drive team vision...

[Roger]

Guess this guy isn't going to be invited cool machine though...

Especially combined with this other guy's 30 planes per second launcher -- whoosh!

[jlindquist74]

Originally Posted by EricH

I may or may not have been spotted with a sudoku book--and a pen--in my hands at one or more events...
I may or may not have seen someone watching Holy Grail on a laptop in the stands some years back...
I may or may not have reading material in my backpack at any given event...
Ditto for a deck of cards...

Cards, you say...

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

They are things. So yes. No beach balls.

"It will be against the rules to throw things from the stands or bleachers at our events."
I wonder if the beach ball is originated from the floor, into the stands, if that would be permissible.

[jnicho15]

Originally Posted by efoote868

"It will be against the rules to throw things from the stands or bleachers at our events."
I wonder if the beach ball is originated from the floor, into the stands, if that would be permissible.

What if drive teams accidentally throw stacks of paper into the stands then the people in the stands return it to them in plane form.

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by jnicho15

What if drive teams accidentally throw stacks of paper into the stands then the people in the stands return it to them in plane form.

The drive team would probably be awarded a red card.

My point is the rule doesn't have to necessarily rule out beach balls, especially if the beach balls originate from the volunteers on the floor.

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by efoote868

My point is the rule doesn't have to necessarily rule out beach balls, especially if the beach balls originate from the volunteers on the floor.

Volunteers don't have the authority to modify the rules. Even if the rule didn't apply to the floor, to continue to throw it from the stands would still be against the rules implied in the Blog. Keeping in mind we have not actually seen the 2017 rules.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Volunteers don't have the authority to modify the rules.

If I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say "it's a venue rule" or "it's an event rule" whenever something was enforced contrary to the Manual, I'd have... several dollars. Some volunteers at some events sure do seem to think they can create rules to supplement or override the Manual.

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

If I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say "it's a venue rule" or "it's an event rule" whenever something was enforced contrary to the Manual, I'd have... several dollars. Some volunteers at some events sure do seem to think they can create rules to supplement or override the Manual.

Say it ain't so Smokey. I know of a few of those myself. But. The lead volunteers FTA, Head Ref, LRI, ETC are the final interpreters of the rules. There are occasionally legitimate disagreements in what the rules mean. The lead people have the final say. Sometimes a less than perfect decision is made in the pressure of the moment.

[RoboChair]

The real question is whether or not remote operated blimps will be countable as throwing things.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSkvW2uO0DI

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Volunteers don't have the authority to modify the rules. Even if the rule didn't apply to the floor, to continue to throw it from the stands would still be against the rules implied in the Blog. Keeping in mind we have not actually seen the 2017 rules.

I'd expect that if a beach ball originated from the stands and gets to the floor, it'd be confiscated. But if the MC, a judge or VIP tossed a beach ball into the stands from the floor during a timeout or field reset, there wouldn't be too much fuss.

If the rule means that beach balls are no more, that's a small price to pay to get rid of the paper airplanes. And to everyone that threw a paper airplane in the past: that is why we can't have nice things.

[Bkeeneykid]

Originally Posted by RoboChair

The real question is whether or not remote operated blimps will be countable as throwing things.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSkvW2uO0DI

We don't want this happening again:

[Mark McLeod]

Here's another case, one of the RPI blimps stuck in the Georgia Dome
https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/a...achmentid=9011