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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

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Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet
I think a few of them can be ruled out... you know... safety and all.
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

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Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?
Most game pieces will fit inside of the bin with the rest of the donated parts, so just because there isn't a different package doesn't mean there is no game piece.
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Very good observation... not listed as a "set of items", but "one very small item".
Envelope, with 6 buttons inside. Not quite sure I'd class that as "very small", but it's one item.
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

I may be wrong but I think that the 2 lb increase in Kit Tote weight could be because of the game piece(s). The foam ball last year was somewhat light compared to, say, frisbees.
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio?
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Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio?
I think it will be included in the FRC 2017 Update Suite
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

small object...... steamworks lots of coal guesses... build season pressure

coal+pressure=diamond. the small object is a diamond
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

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One very small item.
Obviously they are just giving us more Woodie Flowers themed ringtones like those from the DLCs.
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...what games could be played without game pieces??
Robo-'res'lin'!

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Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.
Thanks. Manipulating the field elements was a key feature of the game from our in-team speculation that we used for a fall build -- we had "steam valves" for the robots to operate which would trigger motion of field elements.
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

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One very small item.
This would be the understatement of the year if the item turned out to be a HoloLens.

And the extra drive team button turned out to be for the pilot (of the team-designed virtual dirigible/airship).

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Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.
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Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

I agree that the first item, the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. is a tote. This is supported by the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. item for rookies.

2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. is probably some metal, possibly like last year.

I could see how the 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. item is a battery, since rookies get an item of identical dimensions.

The "very small item" is a mystery. I think there are two main reasons why the dimensions are not specified. If FIRST gives us the dimensions before kickoff to help with transportation, then they think that this item will not be significantly difficult to transport. But I think that this lack of information is a hint. They basically told us that it would be easy to transport, but that specifying exact dimensions would make the item easy to figure out. Based on this, I think the item must be a ball, or something with well-known dimensions.
There is also another possible interpretation. FIRST may think that we don't need the size before kickoff, and knowing them, they give us as little information as possible.
I think that another possibility that we should consider is that regardless of the size of the "very small object", it is relatively heavy (possibly 10 pounds or greater). FIRST knows that we are in high school, so they want to limit the weight of each item in the kickoff kit to about 50 pounds.

This "very small item" is shrouded in mystery, and this is my opinion. What do you think?



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