Bumper zone clarification

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by mentos54

I know this has probably been asked in previous years, but could someone clarify G23 for me? If a robot is climbing in such way that it is parallel to the floor, would it be violating this rule? (The only example given is with the robot being at an angle).

parallel to the floor just means your robot is at an angle of 0. this is fine.

Originally Posted by mentos54

Also, if the entire robot were lifted somehow (for example, if it were to end up on top of another robot), would it be violating this rule? Or would the "base" of the robot be transposed to a flat floor, making it legal (except for the whole on top of a robot part). The only example given is with purely the bumpers being lifted without moving the entire robot.

(updated)
I don't think you'd be violating this rule, but it violates others. G14 specifically.

G14. Don’t climb on each other. ROBOTS may neither fully nor partially support the weight of other
ROBOTS strategically or repeatedly.
Violation: RED CARD.

[Ari423]

Originally Posted by engunneer

I don't think you'd be violating this rule, but it violates others. G14 specifically.

I can only assume this rule was added because of this incident.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by Ari423

I can only assume this rule was added because of this incident.

For those who weren't around when this happened, can you give a backstory to this??

[Ari423]

Originally Posted by MikLast

For those who weren't around when this happened, can you give a backstory to this??

816 and 87 both wanted to cross the same defense and couldn't cross any others. No rule about robots needing to start on the ground. The plan was for 816 to drive forward, cross with 87 on its back, and both of them would get crossing points (because both of their bumpers started fully in the neutral zone and ended in the courtyard). IIRC they didn't make it all the way across but both got reaching points.