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Originally Posted by Billfred
If FIRST releases the breakdown of data in their system (and what they made available for FIRST Stronghold makes me think they could), I might reallocate a 6-scout crew this way:
2 on Boilers: Divide the high and low boiler action across members of the alliance. (This is an estimate, but it changes the game from "count balls" to "who's doing a lot over there?" and makes the numbers equally screwy for the alliance since one person is grading all three.) Take these percentages and allocate balls to each robot accordingly.
2 on Airships: Who delivers gears? Who boards? Do we see overflow chute action (which is a mark against the other alliance)? Do we see the lift handles getting knocked out of the ports (which is a huge mark against the alliance onboard)?
1 on Hoppers: Who's getting dumps? When? How much is going in the robot? (I don't care whether they're scoring it here--I have people watching the boilers for that.)
1 on Neutral Zone: Who's collecting a lot? Who's dishing defense, or avoiding it well?
(I wonder how long it'll be until some team starts farming this data coding out as Mechanical Turk tasks using someone's unlimited data plan...)
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This is an interesting idea. Kind of reminds me how referees observe matches. Don't they typically watch certain locations rather than specific robots? Theoretically the data collected would be much more consistent between matches. That's my biggest fear of an estimation system; my 50% guess is your 60% guess.
I will bring this up to our scouting team and see if there is anything they can take from it.
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Originally Posted by SPang
You can also simply have your pit scouters ask teams about their hopper capacity. There's going to be the usual dissonance between reality and what teams believe they're capable of, but it helps with making estimates more accurate to the robot's actual scoring ability. You can probably amend this by subtracting a certain percentage based on ball packing or how full they actually fill their hopper while cycling in matches.
It's much less effort to make educated approximations rather than spending a disproportionate amount of time on trying to be slightly more accurate.
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I'm just waiting to see a student walking around in the pits with a trash bag slung over the shoulder full of fuel. He or she just walks up, dumps the contents of the bag into a robot (asking first of course), and then picks them out while counting. He or she then makes a note, thanks the pit crew, and hurries on to the next team.