Team Update 6

[KJaget]

We have our rope picked out.

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by KJaget

We have our rope picked out.

This is just getting silly.

[dodar]

"If a GEAR set corresponding to the next sequential unengaged ROTOR remains idle for more than ten (10) seconds, the rotation count resets to zero (0)."

Does this pretty much mean you have to go in order now? Can't see why you would go out of order anyways but I think this pretty much says go in order it you have to start over.

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by dodar

"If a GEAR set corresponding to the next sequential unengaged ROTOR remains idle for more than ten (10) seconds, the rotation count resets to zero (0)."

Does this pretty much mean you have to go in order now? Can't see why you would go out of order anyways but I think this pretty much says go in order it you have to start over.

You've always had to go in order.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

You've always had to go in order.

What rule is that?

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

What rule is that?

Originally Posted by Section 3.4.2

Once a ROTOR is started, it remains turning for the duration of the MATCH. ROTORS only start if GEARS are installed in ROTOR order: 1, 2, 3, and then 4.

Just below Figure 3-12.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Just below Figure 3-12.

Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.

It would also be nice if people read the rules thoroughly. Its not up to me to hand feed them. I gave them a reason to go look at the rules again, so they could learn.

[Taylor]

I'll admit: in my numerous re-readings of the 2017 manual, I missed the caption below a figure that explicitly states the rotors must be engaged in order, as did a few others in this thread.
And we're the 'good ones'.

Aside from the occasional "do we have a weight requirement this year??" silliness, I'll refrain from ordering people to .

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

I'm so glad to know that I can just come on here and trust anything I read about the game so long as no one has come along to correct it yet.

Originally Posted by Taylor

I'll admit: in my numerous re-readings of the 2017 manual, I missed the caption below a figure that explicitly states the rotors must be engaged in order, as did a few others in this thread.
And we're the 'good ones'.

Aside from the occasional "do we have a weight requirement this year??" silliness, I'll refrain from ordering people to .

By not citing the actual rule, or in this case a caption in the rule book, it forces someone to do research into it. I don't need to tell someone to read the manual, I can give them a reason to by giving them information that they need to verify. Don't just hand your students the answer make them work for it and they'll remember it more. At least that's what all my teachers, that I would consider good, did for me.

[Jon Stratis]

So basically, you're saying that instead of just telling people where to find the relevant piece of information when you post it, you'd rather make them go back and read through a 130 page manual in the hopes that they'll spot that one line of text underneath a picture this time?

I make my students read the rule book. When they ask me questions I don't just give them the answer... but I do tell them roughly where to find the answer and help them interpret it. I don't just leave them to struggle through 130 pages without knowing if what they're looking for is even mentioned in there or a figment of someone's imagination.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

So basically, you're saying that instead of just telling people where to find the relevant piece of information when you post it, you'd rather make them go back and read through a 130 page manual in the hopes that they'll spot that one line of text underneath a picture this time?

Couldn't you have just CTRL-F the word "Rotor"...? Or, to be even more precise, "order"?

Also, FIRST conveniently splits the 2017 Game and Season Manual into sections, as advertised on their website. You could safely bet that this rule in question would be in either Section 3: Arena, Section 4: Match Play, or Section 7: Game Rules.

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.

Sure. It was correct in this case so we could have just left it at that. If it was incorrect, plenty of people would have corrected it. Such is CD.

[Jon Stratis]

I'm so glad to know that I can just come on here and trust anything I read about the game so long as no one has come along to correct it yet.

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Just below Figure 3-12.

Has anyone Q&A'd to see if you can place gears out of order? Put 2 gears in set 2, then insert gear in 1, then rotate 2? Cause I read that to mean Rotor 2 won't start until Rotor 1 is turning. I don't think there's any way to enforce not placing gears out of order.