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Also, teams misunderstand the bumper rules every year too. It's still unlikely the GDC is going to back off on them because looser bumper rules mean both flimsier bumpers and more teams engineering bumpers for a competitive advantage like wedging. |
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It's currently free energy. You just have to swap batteries to do it. It makes far more sense to just quit all the worrying about shop compressors in the pits and whether teams are using offboard compressors correctly and provide a compressor that every team uses to fill up before the match. Every robot is functionally identical when it is set on the field as it would be currently. |
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We did this in 2012, and my advice is to make sure that your pneumatic system is as leak free as possible. It is likely that you will run into the situation of a delayed match start or a timeout, and when that happened to us, we made sure to recompress after each delay.
We saw this as an inconvenience and have not opted for an offboard compressor since. This was only done because our 2012 robot was designed to be short enough to hold another robot on top of it, so there was literally no space to place an onboard compressor. Those compressors were bigger than the ones used now if I recall right. I would only advise doing this if there is absolutely no solution to the issue of space for an onboard compressor. |
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Interesting. In '12, our team interpreted that the Robot must be precharged with the battery that the team used for that match. In other words, we couldn't pre-charge, then change the battery because that would, technically, be using two batteries. Seems the language is still the same.
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The one (1) ROBOT battery, a single pair of Anderson Power Products (or APP) 2-pole SB type..... If you precharge your air system with a battery, then change out said battery for a fresh one, you are using two batteries (starting the match with more energy than one battery normally holds). This seems like a good Q & A. |
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I will bet $1 that this is how FIRST intends the rules to be interpreted. Last edited by JamesCH95 : 03-02-2017 at 08:25. |
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If a compressor is replaced, vent all air from the robot at that time, then recharge with the new compressor. All of the stored compressed air will have been supplied by one and only one legal compressor, powered and controlled by the robot. All rules are met, both in spirit and in letter.
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Field air would be a dream come true for off board compressor teams. |
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