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Most Common Foul

Every year has its fouls that get called almost every match. What foul do you expect to be called most often this year? Why do you expect teams to get called on it?
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Re: Most Common Foul

Probably jumping off the airship, tbh.
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Re: Most Common Foul

Smart teams will use the rule that you cannot manipulate 2 gears at a time to their advantage. I predict this will be a fairly common foul for unwary teams.
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Re: Most Common Foul

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Smart teams will use the rule that you cannot manipulate 2 gears at a time to their advantage. I predict this will be a fairly common foul for unwary teams.
What do you mean by this?
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Smart teams will use the rule that you cannot manipulate 2 gears at a time to their advantage. I predict this will be a fairly common foul for unwary teams.
Smarter teams will just pick up gears their opponents leave lying around in an attempt to draw fouls.

I think retrieval zone violations will be big.
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Re: Most Common Foul

G09 may not be the most common, but it will be called more than in prior years. Contributing factors: mostly-open field; many robots with rollers across open frames; plenty of blind spots on the field for short robots; call will depend on who 'initiates' contact.
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Re: Most Common Foul

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Smart teams will also realize what C08 means if they try that. They're smart because they think through their proposed strategies.
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Re: Most Common Foul

A few years ago, there was an autonomus where a lot of robots were bashing into the Alliance Wall.

This year, I can see a lot of them bashing into the Airship. I wonder if G15-H will be extended to cover that to protect the Pilots.
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Re: Most Common Foul

G20 violations on both robots trying to play defense and robots trying to acquire one last gear. A robot touching the rope can pretty much block off a very large chunk of area and 55 points is a huge penalty.
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Re: Most Common Foul

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A few years ago, there was an autonomus where a lot of robots were bashing into the Alliance Wall.

This year, I can see a lot of them bashing into the Airship. I wonder if G15-H will be extended to cover that to protect the Pilots.
FIRST is not putting people in the middle of the field if they're in an airship that isn't very robust. I doubt that bashing the airship will accomplish anything.
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Probably jumping off the airship, tbh.
I bet the average for week one will be somewhere between 15 to 20 of them.
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I bet the average for week one will be somewhere between 15 to 20 of them.
If you get a yellow early in the event and later have a match where you earn 0 RP, should you intentionally get another yellow at the end to clear it? Seems like a valid strategy at first glance. I asked a ref about this once during the volunteer lunch and she said she'd strongly consider giving another card for a strategic foul. If you're thinking about doing this ask your head ref first.
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If you get a yellow early in the event and later have a match where you earn 0 RP, should you intentionally get another yellow at the end to clear it? Seems like a valid strategy at first glance. I asked a ref about this once during the volunteer lunch and she said she'd strongly consider giving another card for a strategic foul. If you're thinking about doing this ask your head ref first.
What? There is so much wrong with this. Why would you ever intentionally get a yellow card?
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If you get a yellow early in the event and later have a match where you earn 0 RP, should you intentionally get another yellow at the end to clear it? Seems like a valid strategy at first glance. I asked a ref about this once during the volunteer lunch and she said she'd strongly consider giving another card for a strategic foul. If you're thinking about doing this ask your head ref first.
The first yellow is probably questionable enough when looking at teams to pick. But the odds of picking a team with 2-3+ yellow cards? I'd rather not risk that, no matter what "justification" you try to tell me.

Also I don't even think a red card "clears" like you think it would; the match still counts against your average - it just counts as a zero. As in it will bring your average down no matter what.
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If you get a yellow early in the event and later have a match where you earn 0 RP, should you intentionally get another yellow at the end to clear it? Seems like a valid strategy at first glance. I asked a ref about this once during the volunteer lunch and she said she'd strongly consider giving another card for a strategic foul. If you're thinking about doing this ask your head ref first.
Is clearing a yellow card like that even a thing? I thought you'd kinda just keep getting red cards after that.

Besides that, Why?
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