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Re: Key Scouting Points?

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You need to be honest about your own capabilities and you need to know your partners' capabilities. (Yes, some teams may exaggerate their capabilities).
I think one thing we're going to work on with pit scouting is verifying teams can do what they say they can do.

Ex: On our scouting app, we have an option for teams that have climbing mechanisms to say if they successfully climbed or not, but also one to say they didn't have the chance. I'm worried data will be skewed if a team says they can climb (but actually can't b/c part is broken or part is jammed), and scouters mark it as didn't get the chance to climb purely because they have the parts to do it on the bot.

Is this something I should be worried about or is this reading into the situation too much?

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What you may want to consider is having a set of scouts who are focused on the upcoming partners and opponents who can provide the freshest perspective to the drive team for their match strategy discussion. These folks would be separate from the scouting team collecting the data for later evaluation during alliance pick list development.
Our current structure is to sign all attending team members (except drive team, team captains, etc.) up on a sheet - they are responsible for showing up to our scouting area during their assigned match number and scouting the team they are asked to look at. This way we don't have to task 12 unfortunate souls with scouting for 2/3 days straight. I, along with 2 or 3 others, plan on interpreting the data they submit and will formulate a strategy to give to the drive team before their next match.
I also heard someone recommend we have trained scouters that are watching most all of the matches (say it's a team of 24 so 12 rotate out every couple of games). Thoughts on that type of scouting? What does your team do?

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Video of matches to confirm or correct scouting data is also helpful, too.
Has anyone had experience with this? I agree it would be helpful but watching possible alliance partners and our own matches is no short task. Any ideas to optimize this?

TL;DR What do your teams do that make scouting more unique or efficient than the next?
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Re: Key Scouting Points?

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Video of matches to confirm or correct scouting data is also helpful, too.
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Has anyone had experience with this? I agree it would be helpful but watching possible alliance partners and our own matches is no short task. Any ideas to optimize this?
In my experience, you don't watch the match videos during the day - you rewatch them Friday night when you're making your picklist to help break ties (or confirm/correct scouting data if something seems outrageous or just plain off). IE it comes down between two teams that you're deciding upon, so you watch a few matches from both teams, rescout those matches, and then reevaluate both of them against each other.
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Re: Key Scouting Points?

We are trying a lot of new and ambitious things with scouting this year, moving from a paper/digital hybrid to fully digital is going to enable us to pull some of our match scouting data for qualification strategy discussions.

The biggest data points we are looking for are pretty much the same for our partners and our opponents.

Where do robots prefer to shoot fuel from? Does that encroach upon our firing position? Is the firing position of an opponent robot predictable and susceptible to defense?

How many gears can our entire alliance place on average and/or max? How many gears can our opponents place on average and/or max? This info might tell us which number rotor to shoot for. There is no sense in going for the 4th rotor unless the data says the alliance can do it. Similarly, we can make a prediction of how far the opposing alliance might try to go, and make the decision if its worth playing defense or not on gear placement.

From past experience as drive coach and strategist, unless you have hard data to backup an alliance strategy, the chance that the match is going to go the way you planned it is very low.
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Re: Key Scouting Points?

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In my experience, you don't watch the match videos during the day - you rewatch them Friday night when you're making your picklist to help break ties (or confirm/correct scouting data if something seems outrageous or just plain off). IE it comes down between two teams that you're deciding upon, so you watch a few matches from both teams, rescout those matches, and then reevaluate both of them against each other.
I love the idea, however I guess I'm still wondering how the logistics of recording and storing works out. Did you have a "camera man" so to speak that stuck with the camera and clicked start/stop record at the beginning/end of every match? Did you record them to a micro SD card or did you stream it to a computer/external hard drive? How did you guys manage the recording of the matches?
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