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Re: Looking for some brutally honest feedback...

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Originally Posted by HonestAnonymous View Post
First off, i know that anonymous accounts are frowned upon, so apologies for that, but I am looking to get some brutally honest feedback without my team knowing who this necessarily is. Anyways... I wrote a rant about some of the most recent pitfalls of our team, and was advised not to post it. But, I still have a few questions for the FRC community.

Long-rant short, our team probably will not exist next year, for a couple reasons:
  1. Our team as a whole does not have its heart in the activity.
  2. Our mentors - Don't get me wrong, they are truly awesome people, but they either don't really have their heart in it, or they are doing the work that the students should be doing.
  3. Our students - Yet again, we have some truly intelligent and hardworking students, but they lack the commitment that is showing up on time, learning and doing some of the more 'boring' stuff, and taking initiative. One of our "captains" taught themselves over the summer all the ins and the outs of the robot, and thus they are REALLY good at making the robot be awesome.
It really upsets me that we are even thinking about the possibility of the team not existing next year. I truly want the team to thrive, and hopefully come back and work with the team.



Anyways, I have a couple of questions for the CD community:
  1. Do you have seniors who do a lot of the work on the team?
  2. Do your mentors do a large chunk of the robot work?
  3. How involved are the majority of students on your team? Do they do a lot of the work, or do mentors?
  4. Do your students learn more by themselves or more from other students and mentors?

If you would prefer to reply in a more "anonymous" fashion, feel free at: https://goo.gl/forms/ksZbCXXo1NEj6Cbh1

Thank you for your honest feedback.
I am setting a timer to see how long this takes to turn into a "mentors do too much work" thread. Hopefully it doesn't go in that direction.

Do you have seniors who do a lot of the work on the team?
Yes. And so do freshman, sophmores, and junior students.

Do your mentors do a large chunk of the robot work?
Yes. And so do the students. And so do our suppliers, and so do parents.

How involved are the majority of students on your team? Do they do a lot of the work, or do mentors?
As involved as they want to be.

Do your students learn more by themselves or more from other students and mentors?
Yes. They do. Depending on how motivated they are and how involved they want to be.

The long and the short of this is, running a successful FRC team takes so much work that NO team has enough hands to do it all. With our 40+ members and 15+ mentors this year, we still wish for more help all the time. Regardless of how many mentors and how many students work on the robot, it is never done early enough. We are still working on it through Champs, and sometimes through IRI.

I somewhat get the impression that you are using your own level of commitment as an expectation for your fellow students and mentors. That doesn't work in practice because everyone is different.

Why would your team cease to exist? I struggle to put my finger on a reason from your initial post. In addition, I think you need to re-evaluate your questions. Generally speaking if you're doing research you want to stay away from leading questions.

Last edited by Tom Line : 06-02-2017 at 21:39.
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