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Re: Passive vs Active Gearing

I'm actually more interested in seeing how many teams have active systems for retrieving the Gear, not placing it.
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Re: Passive vs Active Gearing

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I'm actually more interested in seeing how many teams have active systems for retrieving the Gear, not placing it.
Yes I'm interested in this as well. We found that an active receiver from the station is far superior to a passive funnel. Just giving the gear a little bit of force downwards is going to help seat it even in a box and can correct for misalignment.

Regarding active placers, we decided that that's also very beneficial. I think someone else in the thread said that there are tradeoffs, but we managed to package an active placer in a volume smaller than many teams passive systems.


In my opinion, I think all the high-level gear bots are going to be able to dump the gear the instant the peg gets in the gear.
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Yes I'm interested in this as well. We found that an active receiver from the station is far superior to a passive funnel. Just giving the gear a little bit of force downwards is going to help seat it even in a box and can correct for misalignment.
Tricky thing about active feeder systems - do they still work when the bot isn't up against the wall? If not, then there may be a real possibility of negating their time benefit by wasting cycle time clearing balls/etc before intake.
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Tricky thing about active feeder systems - do they still work when the bot isn't up against the wall? If not, then there may be a real possibility of negating their time benefit by wasting cycle time clearing balls/etc before intake.
While I agree that teams will need to insure their system still works even if there's Fuel in the way, I feel like that's not solely a characteristic of active systems. I'd argue that a lot of the passive Gear pockets I've seen might be more susceptible to imprecise alignment and spacing than some potential active intake systems.
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Yes I'm interested in this as well. We found that an active receiver from the station is far superior to a passive funnel. Just giving the gear a little bit of force downwards is going to help seat it even in a box and can correct for misalignment.

Regarding active placers, we decided that that's also very beneficial. I think someone else in the thread said that there are tradeoffs, but we managed to package an active placer in a volume smaller than many teams passive systems.


In my opinion, I think all the high-level gear bots are going to be able to dump the gear the instant the peg gets in the gear.
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Re: Passive vs Active Gearing

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I'm actually more interested in seeing how many teams have active systems for retrieving the Gear, not placing it.
We are attempting both an active intake (from the floor or from the loading station) and an active placing mechanism (opening the box and an active push onto to spring). We will see within the next few days how successful these are.
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