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View Poll Results: Who Builds your Bot?
Students 53 28.49%
Mentors/Adults/Engineers involved With Team 9 4.84%
Mixed; Adults and Students, Mostly Students 67 36.02%
Mixed; Adults and Students, Mostly Adults 13 6.99%
Mixed; Adults and Students, About 50/50 41 22.04%
We Send It Out To Be Professionally Built 3 1.61%
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I'd say that's what you can do with no engineers.
Why are "no engineer" teams so overly proud of this? Having no engineers does not make your team better.

Yes, you learn a lot, and do a lot on your own. But... there is only so much you can learn on your own, before someone has to TEACH you.

This is just another reincarnation of the age old "Student Built vs. Engineer Built" debate. There is NO RIGHT ANSWER. Every team does things differently. On 229, I wouldn't do things the same way Chief Delphi (47) does it, and I wouldn't do things the same way Big Red (19) does it.

One thing you should consider John:
You obviously learned a lot from this year, but did you ever think of the lessons you didn't learn because of your lack of engineers?

Something else to consider:
An amazing "engineer" bot you might recognize.


John
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