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Like it? 9 31.03%
Read, write, and/or study poetry? 11 37.93%
Do other interesting things w/ poetry? 3 10.34%
Not like it....? 13 44.83%
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I'm just curious....how many CD'ers like to write, read, etc... poetry? Please vote, and discuss this if you wish.
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I've been writing poetry since I was 8 years old (and thankfully, the poetry of my early years has been very carefully hidden away, I cringe to think that anyone would ever read those poems...) Two of my favorite poets are Stephen Crane and Sylvia Plath. I had two poems published by a real magazine (and by real, I mean not school related) when I was 19. Those two poems are the only poems I've ever submitted and I was coerced into that by friends who knew one of the regulars at the restaurant where we waited tables was an editor and it just sort of happened. Oddly enough, I had no problem writing poetry for the underground newspaper at the university I attended. Writing for Scream was the only time I ever used a pseudonym for my writing and that was because too many school officials were trying to shut the newspaper down and people associated with it often found themselves in trouble.

I also have no problem posting my poetry on my website though I haven't updated it in a long time. I guess I've moved away from poetry a bit (blame it on 100Words.net). And if I don't shut up I'll ramble on about poetry all night...

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Writing is a big part of my life.... I have had several of my poems published. I used to keep them on my website but then I started writing about more personal stuff. Most of my poems are at Poety.com along with some other CD's stuff that I know of. Im sad to say but poetry isnt as big as it once was. I dont know of many people who write poetry anymore.....
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I was an English major; I loved prose but never cared much for poetry. John Donne poems are quite...."interesting" though, but I swear if I have to analyze another one of them I will go crazy.
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I couldnt find the "I hate poetry with a passion" choice, so I had to go with disliking it. If we hadnt anaylzed so many poems in english, I might just be indifferent

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I couldnt find the "I hate poetry with a passion" choice, so I had to go with disliking it. If we hadnt anaylzed so many poems in english, I might just be indifferent
I second that.
In fact, a poetry assignment (inderectly) led to me being kicked outta my house for a week during christmas break
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Writing is a big part of my life.... I have had several of my poems published. I used to keep them on my website but then I started writing about more personal stuff. Most of my poems are at Poety.com along with some other CD's stuff that I know of. Im sad to say but poetry isnt as big as it once was. I dont know of many people who write poetry anymore.....
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I couldnt find the "I hate poetry with a passion" choice, so I had to go with disliking it. If we hadnt anaylzed so many poems in english, I might just be indifferent
I've been writing for only a while (about a year come October). I've wrote many things. A couple of my poems have been published, and such (if you want, you can read a lot of mine at my site [link in sig]). Angela is right though, poetry itself is dieing sadly (). My favorite poet is Edgar Allan Poe.

Cory > "I hate poetry w/ a passion" was something I was gonna add, but I didn't have much time left online.... :|
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Do those of you who dislike poetry also dislike song lyrics? Song lyrics are poetry (well, I'm sure you could find an exception, but it's mostly true).

For anyone who submits poetry for Poetry.com, be very careful. They have been under investigation for fraud since 2001. Here are some links about it:

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Before you submit anything for publication try to find out if they are on the up and up. There's a group called Writer Beware that lists alerts for scams. And also make sure to read the fine print about your rights to your poems, because some places can and do steal your copyright to your work if you submit it to them even if they don't publish your work. Writer's Digest, Fiction Factor and Writer Beware all offer good information on spotting scams and on actually alerting writers of scams, though they may not find all of them. There's also a site called the Writers BBS Forums which is a message board and members post information of scams they run across.

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Do those of you who dislike poetry also dislike song lyrics? Song lyrics are poetry (well, I'm sure you could find an exception, but it's mostly true).

For anyone who submits poetry for Poetry.com, be very careful. They have been under investigation for fraud since 2001. Here are some links about it:

From Writer's Digest

From Fiction Factor

Before you submit anything for publication try to find out if they are on the up and up. There's a group called Writer Beware that lists alerts for scams. And also make sure to read the fine print about your rights to your poems, because some places can and do steal your copyright to your work if you submit it to them even if they don't publish your work. Writer's Digest, Fiction Factor and Writer Beware all offer good information on spotting scams and on actually alerting writers of scams, though they may not find all of them. There's also a site called the Writers BBS Forums which is a message board and members post information of scams they run across.

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*cries* 50 bucks........trash.........*cries more*

There's another from the UK (Home Publishing...or something). It's a scam, for sure. If I can find a sheet of paper with a address on it, I'll post it here (it has an article about a lil' way to determine if the publisher is real or not).
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i'm a poet. i have been for a while. but most of my poems are really structured and not nearly as annoying as the ones you are forced to read in school. for those of you that are tired of reading boring school-type poetry lemme suggest my favorite author: ee cummings. yes, his name is actually meant to be lowercase. i like him because he has no form and his poems can be funny but also very deep. my favorite poem is "la" another of my favorites is TS Eliot, but he is most likely one of the poets you will read in school. his poetry is really though provoking, but still easily understood and related. ok...that's all from me on this subject.
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In my english class we analyzed song lyrics a few times...but our teacher was kool like that. One of my best friends dads is a nationally published poet and a professor at mdcc. I like poetry it has a flow you dont get. I suggest going to see a poet read because once you hear people read poetry and read it well it makes poetry in general better because, i know for me, you can hear the voice reading it. Ive been to a few poetry readings and they are very relaxing as well so if your stressed try going to a reading it might help
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Do those of you who dislike poetry also dislike song lyrics? Song lyrics are poetry (well, I'm sure you could find an exception, but it's mostly true).

For anyone who submits poetry for Poetry.com, be very careful. They have been under investigation for fraud since 2001. Here are some links about it:

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O my! thank you so much. See, i've never gotten the courage to go on and send something to poetry.com etc. (for one thing, i hate the 20 line, min, and i'm one that doesn't like being limited)
And now with that info, i will not send it in and like with everything else, be more couscous and paranoid, be-c there is no trust left in the world that people would cheat you out of poetry money...
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In my english class we analyzed song lyrics a few times...but our teacher was kool like that. One of my best friends dads is a nationally published poet and a professor at mdcc. I like poetry it has a flow you dont get. I suggest going to see a poet read because once you hear people read poetry and read it well it makes poetry in general better because, i know for me, you can hear the voice reading it. Ive been to a few poetry readings and they are very relaxing as well so if your stressed try going to a reading it might help
I'm actually unsure whether that would make English better or music worse. Trying overly hard to find meaning in something that, in my opinion, should just be appreciated as is, has greatly reduced my enjoyment of the material in question. (poetry and literature are probably the most notable examples)
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I'm actually unsure whether that would make English better or music worse. Trying overly hard to find meaning in something that, in my opinion, should just be appreciated as is, has greatly reduced my enjoyment of the material in question. (poetry and literature are probably the most notable examples)
Not to argue with you, because I agree, sometimes things are over analyzed... but poets, novelists, songwriters, these people are word engineers. An English teacher's responsibility is to explain how their structures are put together, what makes them work and why they work. Symbolism can be a nuisance, but it can also be interesting and make you look at something a bit differently. And being able to see something from different view points is a good skill to have in any field.

And to completely show I've gone off the deep-end, compare this past year's game to a poem. So there's this poem called Stack-attack and all of these teams were given the task of interpreting it and figuring it out. Which they did, but funny thing is some of them agreed on it and built robots that were a lot alike, but some came up with completely different answers for it and their robots reflect that. Now, if all the robots that won the competitions were close to the same thing, then they most likely were on to something about what that silly Stack-Attack poem meant. Did seeing so many different robots lessen your enjoyment of the game? Of course, I do realize poetry is not a robot game, words and machines are two different things and not all people love words the way I do (but that's o.k., because I can't stand math ) but they are not completely separate.

Oh, and if anyone is ever serious about submitting poetry, the best book you can possibly get is the Poet's Market book, which is a listing of almost every legitimate small press running in the U.S. (and some presses in other countries) and what they are looking for and how to submit. The 2004 book should be out in late September.

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