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Ok I kno this is a contrivertial topic n' all but I was wondering how many of you out there beleive in God? And if you do or don't y or y not?
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If there was a God he would be there from the start. The logic of God being there is that he has been there since the beginning. God has always been there and always will be.
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The only evidence I've ever found for God is that Pi is Pi, and not just 3.

God must be purposefully making the math harder.

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if there was a god, then who created god?
If there was a Big Bang where did the singularity come from? (by which point I mean that we know that the universe has a definate 'starting point.' The logic is that for the Big Bang to happen, all the conditions that caused it to happen would have had to existed . . but if the conditions were not caused by an outside power then they would have always existed, and therefore the big bang would have gone off an infinite amount of time ago . . a paradox. The argument is that god is the uncaused cause.

I believe in a god, but I don't believe that god takes an active role in influencing human life, nor do I accept Catholicism ( i was raised Catholic).

I belief that any belief/prayer should be personal and not a public ceremony. But thats just me.

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I'd rather not get into all my views on the topic of religion, for fear that this thread would be closed in about 2 picoseconds, but the basic jist of it is that I believe there is some sort of greater force, perhaps not "God" per se, but something that created everything else. It might not be sentinent, it might be, but it's there, although not taking an active role in the universe at the moment. It's sort of a twisted deism (I think that's spelled right).

I was raised Jewish, but I believe that everything that comes from the Torah and stuff is not from "God", but stories told similar to Aesop's Fables, something to tell you how to live, and hwo to treat others, so that your life will be fullfilling and meaningful.

Oh well, in any case, I'm still going to synagogue this weekend for Rosh Hashanah, and I did my Eagle Project at my synagogue, so I'm not completely against what Judiasm teaches .

If you really want to hear all my theories on religion itself, PM me or something, cause as I said before, it's sure to start a flamewar here...
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Re: God

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Ok I kno this is a contrivertial topic n' all
Yep...

We should place bets.. er, ventures, on how long it will be before this thread gets closed.

As for the topic, I'm an atheist. I don't spend my time caring about it - I just don't care.
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If there was a Big Bang where did the singularity come from? (by which point I mean that we know that the universe has a definate [sic] 'starting point.' The logic is that for the Big Bang to happen, all the conditions that caused it to happen would have had to existed . . but if the conditions were not caused by an outside power then they would have always existed, and therefore the big bang would have gone off an infinite amount of time ago . . a paradox. The argument is that god is the uncaused cause.
The Big Bang singularity contained our dimensions. Space and time are dimensions. Before the Big Bang there was no time, no space, no nothing. Does this paradox answer your question?
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This has already been well discussed on these forums... many opionions are here.

My reply is the same as it was then. Currently, this thread is benign. Keep the attacks and criticisms out of it and it will be OK. My opinions are different from many here, but that is OK.

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This has already been well discussed on these forums... many opionions are here.

My reply is the same as it was then. Currently, this thread is benign. Keep the attacks and criticisms out of it and it will be OK. My opinions are different from many here, but that is OK.

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Heh. I was about to say the exact same thing. Sadly, however, all but the first of my posts in that thread are immaterial.

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I believe in God.. although my faith in my religion is shakey at best, I do believe in God.
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Yeah... I'd rather not go into my views of religion too, also for fear of this topic being closed faster than you can say "Brandon Martus"

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Alright, who said that! I'll send a hurricane your way!!!

Er, back on topic, I'll keep it brief. I don't like it when many different people try to sell me many different angles on life. So I have never been religious in my life. Science disproves everything religion tries to prove anyway. Personally, I don't believe in god, but I do think this should be a serious conversation nonetheless.
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Religion is based on faith, without facts and logic the way science is supported. I don't like believing something "just because."
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Well, I'm Roman Catholic, but I don't belive in the God that is on the Simpsons, where there is a guy with a white beard up in the clouds. I think God is why things are and how they work. I don't think god runs around and helps with our lives. I think God just keeps everying ok through checks and blanaces.

But the best part of God is that you just have to know, there isn't a 100% proof that God is real. I know that us geeks hate just beliveing just because, but I do it.

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