Prime# teams at natonals

[Jeff Waegelin]

Originally posted by Tytus Gerrish
Prime number teams Came out of Dean's mouth, not mine its just an example of a way to select the teams that get to go to natonals

Why do I seriously doubt that? Dean would never suggest something as ridiculous as letting prime number teams go. It's not even close to fair by any stretch of the imagination, and it's a very arbitrary choice. Plus, Dean wouldn't say anything, even if he was considering it. Something blatantly false like that isn't even worthy of the Rumor Mill.

[Tytus Gerrish]

I so! heard dean say that ,Jokingly of course

[dez250]

Originally posted by Jeff Waegelin
Why do I seriously doubt that? Dean would never suggest something as ridiculous as letting prime number teams go. It's not even close to fair by any stretch of the imagination, and it's a very arbitrary choice. Plus, Dean wouldn't say anything, even if he was considering it. Something blatantly false like that isn't even worthy of the Rumor Mill.

Jeff since when are you best friends with Dean and know everything he says... If i remember correctly (which I'm pretty sure i am now) he did say a comment like this at a time. I remember reading a transcript from one of his [Dean's] speeches and remember him listing off ways that they [FIRST] could consider a team be viable for a spot to nationals. Thus yes it was a sort of joke as some were far fetch and went into ideas that were funny to hear from him (ex. teams that own segways...etc) but i don't think that Tytus is lying about dean saying it as a joke. but i personally don't think it would work either because that would limit it to about 100 or so teams and wouldn't change as amounts of teams increased.
~Mike

P.S.~ This post is not meant as a flame to anyone and i don't want this discussion to turn into a flame war.

[Jnadke]

I prefer all teams that don't have a team number 179

I disagree with where the author put this. This post belongs in the rumor mill at best, if not chit-chat. The championship event forum is here for serious discussion - not clutter.

[Ryan Dognaux]

No.. just no...

That's like saying all teams evenly divisble by 32.782 should go to Nationals.

[mtrawls]

Hmm ... no one appreciates a good mathematical joke?

Well, given the bias of prime numbers, I researched the issue a bit (well, not really, but pretend that I did to give me some credibility, okay?).

Now for this year we can use Aronson's Sequence (check out Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences ). I made sure that good ol' 122 is on there.

Next perhaps the fibonacci sequence. (I won't be on team 122 next year, as I'll be in college.) After that, there are plenty more sequencs Dean could choose. Meanwhile, I think all teams that have built or are building a personal segway type device should go no matter what (no, I'm not biased).

[JVN]

Guys... it's just a a joke.
I for one, smiled when I saw it.

FIRST will likely be releasing the qualification criteria sometime soon. We all need to remember that FIRST has received a great deal of feedback from team's on this issue, and they will have likely tried to implement as much of our "meta-criteria" as possible into the final solution.

I will be interested to see exactly how they pull this off.
We've given them a tough problem to solve, and I'm confident they will solve it in a way that is fair to all, and will benefit the program in the long-term.

We all need to keep this in mind, even as we joke about things like this.... and especially after the qualification scheme is released later on.



FYI - all the members of 229 wholeheartedly support the "prime qualification plan". Tytus, it seems like you've got yourself a winner here.

[SaxMan701]

I think all teams in which...

A and B represent the digits of the team number, and B=2A. (Or, for 3 digits, C=2B=2A, and you get it for 4 digits.) (21, 42, 63, 84, 421, 842...that's all of the teams that could exist now.)

Or any team whose number is divisble by 42 . (42, 84, 126, 168, 210, etc.)

Or, even better, if you can find anything mathematically special about your team's number, you're in.

[FotoPlasma]

Originally posted by SaxMan701
C=2B=2A

I think you mean "C=2B=4A".

My vote goes for only members of the Fibonacci Sequence... That competition oughta last about 30 minutes...

[Rickertsen2]

How has a thread like this gone so far. Chief delphi gets sooo bland in the offseason.

[Dan Richardson]

Prime numbers ... kinda biased to all teams divisble by 2 ( sept for 2 itself ) which basically means all even teams :-)

:: shakes head at the nonsense ::

[Tytus Gerrish]

Originally posted by Rickertsen2
How has a thread like this gone so far. Chief delphi gets sooo bland in the offseason.

BLAND? Cummon Man! i Got Caraisma!

[Jeff Waegelin]

Originally posted by Tytus Gerrish
BLAND? Cummon Man! i Got Caraisma!

Charisma, Tytus, Charisma. How can we expect you to have any if you can't spell the word?

[Ken Leung]

I suggest you guys start having some meaningful conversation about this topic, maybe something about the meaning of Championship event or the logistic of hosting a competition for 300 robotics teams...

Otherwise you should ask Brandon to close the thread.

Just a suggestion of course ;-).

[Stephanie]

'ey, chill.
people can have charisma even if they didn't use "hooked on phonics" as a kid. i mean, c'mon. it's not their fault their parents didn't buy it for them!

..sorry for the lack of content in my post, ken