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View Poll Results: Do you think FIRST would redesign the game if someone's guess was "dead on correct"?
Yes, I do think that FIRST would completely redesign the game at this point in the season. 1 1.67%
No, I do not think that FIRST would completely redesign the game at this point in the season. 45 75.00%
I think FIRST would just try to modify the game a bit so it was still close to the guess, but not exactly the same. 14 23.33%
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Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?

I mean, the guesses are just that.. guesses. But do you think they would keep it the way it is, or try and change it for the simple reason of being a total surprise?

Also, what would you do if you were FIRST and that happened??
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Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?

I mean, the guesses are just that.. guesses. But do you think they would keep it the way it is, or try and change it for the simple reason of being a total surprise?

Also, what would you do if you were FIRST and that happened??
Of course not!

One reason being... until the curtain goes up, no one KNOWS the guess is accurate. I mean... it's not like teams are out there designing robots to play your "drum game". Are there? So no one has a "head-start", and there is no problem.

Another reason being... Do you have any idea how much time/effort goes into developing a FIRST game? I'm pretty sure they don't just have "extra games" lying around for such an emergency. Evem if hypothetically they could create a new game in a much shortened period of time, not only would they have to rewrite the new manual, but they'd have to rebuild/reorder the new playing fields (6+ of them), not to mention the large amounts of $$$ that would be "wasted" on the pre-developed, now obsolete game.

No way... no how.

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Re: Do you think FIRST would change the game if...

Considering the planning and effort that goes into each game, I highly doubt it.

At the very most, you'd get bragging rights (I guessed the game before the Kickoff!), but I don't see much other reciprocation happening.
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Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?
We already did tha...

Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said anything. For any further information, go ask Lil' Lavery.

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We already did tha...

Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said anything. For any further information, go ask Lil' Lavery.
In last year's make-the-new-game-thread, I seem to remember someone's idea - Wacky Warehouse or something to that extent - being reeeaaaallly similar to Stack Attack.......
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In last year's make-the-new-game-thread, I seem to remember someone's idea - Wacky Warehouse or something to that extent - being reeeaaaallly similar to Stack Attack.......
That's because Dave wanted ideas. I think we should do a CD thread again like last year, I don't like this whole 'submit ideas to FIRST' thing since we can't build upon other's ideas.

As for the topic question, no, I don't think FIRST will change the game, unless it was WAY early in the season. I'm talking July/August. Creating a new game takes LOADS of effort and tons of fine tweeking.
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......part of the fun of FIRST is the guessing!

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Re: Do you think FIRST would change the game if...

If I were the designer of the game, I woudn't care if someone guessed the game 'dead on accurate'. What's the probability of such a feat? If anything, I'd send the person who guessed correctly an email congratulating his/her good luck. And then immediately ask them to give me 5 lottery numbers.
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That's because Dave wanted ideas. I think we should do a CD thread again like last year, I don't like this whole 'submit ideas to FIRST' thing since we can't build upon other's ideas.
If I were choosing, I'd do both private submissions AND a CD thread, and then consult both. But that's just me.
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If I were choosing, I'd do both private submissions AND a CD thread, and then consult both. But that's just me.
... and perhaps that has already been done? As everyone knows, there was a procedure for the teams to submit directly to FIRST earlier this year. I would also point out that the last time there was a formal CD thread on the topic, the resulting comments ran to over 95 pages of material, which distilled down to at least three years worth of really good ideas. Who ever said that material would only be used for the 2003 game?

The next logical steps are left as an exercise for the reader...

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Of course not!

One reason being... until the curtain goes up, no one KNOWS the guess is accurate. I mean... it's not like teams are out there designing robots to play your "drum game". Are there? So no one has a "head-start", and there is no problem.

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i know some individuals who think they've figured it out. they kept theyre mouths prety much shut from me, as long as they dont go spreading it around i guess things will be ok
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The next logical steps are left as an exercise for the reader...
Hmmm.... I remeber myself saying weights should be a scoring object in that one thread... but hey, what do I know?
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Manchester, NH -- FIRST (For Inpiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) has had their secret game revealed for the first time in their history. A participant from Connecticut picked up on a hint in a FIRST email identifying the 2004 game object as a drum. A FIRST employee told us "Wow -- we never thought this could ever happen -- we are scrambling -- but we have successfully changed the game at this late stage -- it was almost a disaster." Apparently they really have changed the game, as the dumpsters outside of FIRST headquarters were full of hundreds of drums. The employee would not give us any hints about the new game... but, two tractor trailers were seen being unloaded yesterday at FIRST Headquarters. Their contents? Bongos. Hundreds of boxes of bongos.
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Alright! So when we’re not working on our robot… we can put on French hats, tap on those bongo drums and rehearse poetry!

Are you sure this isn’t Lil’ Lavery posting under Aidan’s name?
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