Who has the best computer?

[Greg McCoy]

AMD is just some weird company that made a rip-off clone for cheaper.

[Clark Gilbert]

Here's something i thought of while sitting in class...

Take a MAC computer case and put PC stuff in it or the other way around.

[Greg McCoy]

Sounds Interesting,

What class are you in, Clark? I'm in computer apps

[Bondage]

Originally posted by Greg McCoy
AMD is just some weird company that made a rip-off clone for cheaper.

That cheaper rip-off clone is faster. And more durable.
<Edit> Not really me, this just happens to be my robotics hotties computer... I would be Wetzel, the guy with the funny colored car.</edit>

[Greg McCoy]

Yeah, but I think (I'm not sure) that the current AMD clock speeds are a lot lower than the current Intel clock speeds. However, the AMD processors for whatever reason seems to run faster so they turn out to run about even.

Sorry if I offended any AMD owners out there

[Wetzel]

Originally posted by Greg McCoy
Yeah, but I think (I'm not sure) that the current AMD clock speeds are a lot lower than the current Intel clock speeds. However, the AMD processors for whatever reason seems to run faster so they turn out to run about even.

Sorry if I offended any AMD owners out there

Yes, Intel recently ramped up to 2.2 Ghz, while AMD has jsut released the 2000, which runs at 1.67 Ghz. The 2.2 P4A has a slightly diffrent archetecture (hence the 'A'), and doubles the L2 cache to 512KB. But the AMD chip still outperforms in Office performance as well as Linux Kernel compiling. That is efficency making up for the 32% difference in raw speed. In gaming, the new P4A has a slight edge over the Athlon XP, but is still loads more expensive. Here is a link to becnhmarks.
Tom's Hardware Benchmarks

I have an Athlon XP 1700.. It runs at 1.43 Ghz. It will outperform the Intel P4s because of the prefetch. Basicly, the data to be processed is run through a set routine. Both chips will guess ahead as to what will be needed next, and run that data. If it is found not to be needed, it is thrown out. You have wasted time. AMD not only has a better guessing ability, but it also hasa shorter pipeline, meaning that a wrong guess dosn't cost as much wasted time. So AMD went and built a much more efficent core, while Intel's Willamette (current P4 architechture) design is geared towards seeing how many transistors they can fit on the chip, thereby increasing the number Ghz. My 1.43 Ghz (actual) Athlon XP will outperform a P4 1.7 Ghz in every benchmark no sweat, everything else being equal. Intel is going away from using RAMBUS ram, which should bring the costs down somewhat, but AMD is still a better performer.
Also, by adding all those extra transistors, it generates a whole lot more heat, requireing bigger heatsink/fans and shorting the lifespan of the chip.
AMD chips are also easier to overclock, but thats an entirely diffrent matter.

Also, Cyrix made chips for a while that were really cheap, but a POS product. They stoped at the K-6II level I think...
But they were a cheap clone.

[Greg McCoy]

Is "robotics hottie" an oxymoron?

Just Kidding...


Yeah, I didn't realize that AMD's had different archeticture at all. I have an Intel Pentium 4 1.5 GHz system.

It always helps to know what you're talking about before you yell

[EnderofDragon]

Originally posted by Greg McCoy
Is "robotics hottie" an oxymoron?

Almost as much as Microsoft Works

[Bondage]

oh really graham? so you don't think I'm hot? I'm incredibly insulted......*cries*
I'll chalk it up to the fact that deep down inside you're madly in love with me...

[EnderofDragon]

Originally posted by Bondage
deep down inside you're madly in love with me...

How did you know!?!?!

ok im not even gonna beat u guys, i want to cry!

Want to donate too a kid 1 of those?

[Matt Attallah]

768MB PC800 Rambus<--------??

How is this possable?? (I know you all love my spelling!!) I thought only way you can get that is by having 2 processors, and if that o/s can support that much. Windows only can register 512...

My Computer:

AMD Althon 1.1ghz
256 MB pc133 ram
NVIDIA 64 Pro w/ 16 mb on-chip ram
60 GB HD (7,200 I Think...)
Win XP <-----------------BBBBBOOOOOO!!!!(I Forked out the $99)
7.1 Surrond sound (yes, i did fork out some big $$ for that)
8x8x24 RW-CD-Rom
8x DVD-Rom
1.44" Floppy Drive
56K Modem
10/100 LAN Card

and dents in the side from me kicking it w/ some burn marks on the back from the power supply where the Magic Smoke came out!

[Wetzel]

Originally posted by Matt Attallah
768MB PC800 Rambus<--------??

How is this possable?? (I know you all love my spelling!!) I thought only way you can get that is by having 2 processors, and if that o/s can support that much. Windows only can register 512...
...

Win XP supports more, I think up to 4 GB of RAM. (Not Sure)
Win2k supports a GB of ram.
Win9x supports 512 MB.
Linux can support more as well, I have seen Linux running with 1.5 GB Ram....
Your mobo can also limit the amount. Mine (Soyo Dragon Plust) supports only 1.5 GB of DDR ram.
Or you can get even more exotic OS's...

[Greg McCoy]

Yeah, I think that's right. If you really want 4 GB of RAM, I think you can have it with XP.

[Wetzel]

Have secured funds for a duile board and another XP 1700.
Next, go to my local computer store and purchase said items.
Thirdly, browrow 512mg ram from a friend, to total a gig in machine.
Then see how fast 3dMax will render.