Notepad Baby!

[Jeremy_Mc]

Originally Posted by D.Viddy

Please don't claim notepad when you use some kind of SH program. I design professional websites for companies and I do all of my ASP (VBScript), SQL, JavaScript, and CSS by hand in Dreamweavers code view. Any real web developer knows that anyone dumb enough to use straight notepad is just that, DUMB. So come on, you aren't impressing anyone by claiming notepad. Tell us what you really use. Oh yeah and by the way our site is:

http://www.codebend.net/robotics998/
http://www.codebend.net

Remember both of these sites were written in Dreamweaver's Code View and are entirely database driven. Thanks

I'm not sure who _you_ were aiming to impress by this post...I, too, design "professional websites" for companies, but I use a notepad-like editor (it just supports *nix formatted files).

Not to say using Dreamweaver is "dumb" but it IS to say some people don't need to be told what a string is by coloring it red and where the keywords are by making them blue. I also don't need to be able to generate code or use auto-complete. I'm comfortable enough to use a plain-text editor to type it out plain and simple.

[Dave Hurt]

The reason I don't code in notepad is it doesn't format the code. Dreamweaver, crimson editore, and studio.net all do that. Anyways, isn't the programmers motto program smarter, not harder? Why reinvent the wheel, when things have already been done and are available to you?

[Jeremy_Mc]

Originally Posted by Dave Hurt

The reason I don't code in notepad is it doesn't format the code. Dreamweaver, crimson editore, and studio.net all do that. Anyways, isn't the programmers motto program smarter, not harder? Why reinvent the wheel, when things have already been done and are available to you?

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

[Aignam]

Originally Posted by Jeremy_Mc

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

I agree. In a sleeper web design class that I used to meet computer requirements, my teacher forced us to do some assignments in Microsoft Frontpage. I was a bit upset and dismayed over this, so I used Frontpage's nifty 'insert custom code' feature, and typed in my html there. Needless to say, Mrs. xxx didn't like that one bit..

[ZeoFateX]

Personally, I can't stand front page... it doesn't allow me to customise stuff the way I want -- it inserts $@#$@#$@#$@# where I don't need it, same with Dreamweaver...

[Roland]

Originally Posted by ZeoFateX

it inserts $@#$@#$@#$@# where I don't need it

Is that Perl?

[D.Viddy]

Originally Posted by Jeremy_Mc

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

Yeah I would really hate to be effiecient by using a "bloatware" application. Plus I'm not trying to impress you boners. Bye

[DrWorm]

Let me just say....

VI Forever!!!



Really, it's hard to use at first, but once you get the hang of it, you can edit REALLY fast, and the syntax highlighting makes it easy to read.

I mean really... Notepad? What if my PHP code has an error on line 529?

How do you get to 529 quickly in notepad? I just hit :529[enter].

And yes, theres a Windows version.

So, if you ever have a few hours to spare, download it and try to learn it. In the long run, you may be glad that you did.

Or you may end up hating it a lot.

- Sharp
:wq

[Jeremy_Mc]

Originally Posted by DrWorm

Let me just say....

VI Forever!!!



Really, it's hard to use at first, but once you get the hang of it, you can edit REALLY fast, and the syntax highlighting makes it easy to read.

I mean really... Notepad? What if my PHP code has an error on line 529?

How do you get to 529 quickly in notepad? I just hit :529[enter].

And yes, theres a Windows version.

So, if you ever have a few hours to spare, download it and try to learn it. In the long run, you may be glad that you did.

Or you may end up hating it a lot.

- Sharp
:wq

For windows, I really must recommend elvis.

http://elvis.the-little-red-haired-girl.org

I must say it's my preferred vi clone for windows. vim is a good one, too.

[Dave Hurt]

Well, when it comes down to it, you'll use whatever you want. The time that I save by not having to hit the tab key when I code is valuable time for me. I use studio.net more then dreamweaver, but the best part about dreamweaver is how fast you can build forms and such. A couple clicks, and I'm saved half an hour trying to remember all the options I need. Dreamweaver code doesn't get ugly till you start adding in php or asp behaviors.

The other reason to use Dreamweaver, at least for me, is using plugins. I have quite a few plugins that do anything from upload a file, resize an image, or create a shopping cart for use with pay pal. All's I'm saying is don't get so burried in thinking you need to do all of your code, and all of it by hand. Take every opertunity to use existing code and programs to make your life easier. It pays off.

[velocipenguin]

My editor of choice is vi; it's small, doesn't have visual clutter, and is terrifically fast once you learn the commands. Using other editors tends to throw me off, though; the C++ class I'm taking requires the use of Visual Studio .NET, and I still haven't managed to learn that I need to use Ctrl-S instead of :w to save my work. I've been having similar problems with the MPLAB IDE, too. My opinion is that the speed advantages afforded by the use of vi offset the awkwardness I encounter on those rare occasions when I am forced to use other editors.

[ZeoFateX]

I only use notepad heh http://www.montvillecompclub.org our computer club website. Not full functional yet since it's new ^_^