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Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

The students from Cyber Blue 234 have come up with a weights calculator for teams to use this season. Although the calculator is far from the goal that we would like to have it at, its a great start for this season. With this calculator, you will be able to easily track the weight of your robot before it is even put together. This calculator will only be able to track more parts with your help! If you have a part that you would like to see put onto the calculator, please send all the necessary info to weights@cyberblue234.com If you are able to take a picture of the item, that would also be great for when this database plans to be a website based version next year. You may download the calculator here


Please send all questions and queries to weights@cyberblue234.com as they will be able to answer any questions, and not me.


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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

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The students from Cyber Blue 234 have come up with a weights calculator for teams to use this season. Although the calculator is far from the goal that we would like to have it at, its a great start for this season. With this calculator, you will be able to easily track the weight of your robot before it is even put together. This calculator will only be able to track more parts with your help! If you have a part that you would like to see put onto the calculator, please send all the necessary info to weights@cyberblue234.com If you are able to take a picture of the item, that would also be great for when this database plans to be a website based version next year. You may download the calculator here


Please send all questions and queries to weights@cyberblue234.com as they will be able to answer any questions, and not me.


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DUDE! Nice contribution from the team! I'm sure that instead of people deciding to drill holes (AKA - Swiss Cheeseing it) they will be able to keep track of their weight during the build - instead of after!



Surgeon General Warning - "Swiss Cheesing" has been noted to cause losses, structural failure, and even total robot failure. Please refrain from drilling holes into your robot to help keep weight down.


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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

Great contribution guys. Hope team 237 uses it so we dont have to swiss cheese the robot like every other yer.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

Cool Program/Collection. I can see this being very helpful to many teams.

I guess you can still just drill holes in your battery and then there was the air tank for the pneumatcis we used to get too.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

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A robot without lightening holes? Say it ain't so...

Nice calculator, though. Good idea.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

Thanks. We hope to someday get around to making it an add in on our team website. If anyone has anything that they use and think other teams might even consider using, if you could, please weigh it(in pounds) and the appropriate unit(per inch, per square inch, etc.) and email it to weights@cyberblue234.com and it'll be put on the database and updated so that it is a better utility for everyone. Thanks!
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

Very cool, guys! This will be so useful for anyone trying to put together a BOM for their team, too. I've been putting the robot BOM together for 93 since 2001 and could've used something like this awhile ago!
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

I've used a spreadsheet like this for several years. It is also helpful to have a weight budget for sub assemblies and track them separately. I would suggest posting a unprotected version so that new components can be changed or added pending the contents of the kit. Also, tracking assemblies of custom parts is very useful.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

That's awesome. I love you guys. My team is thrilled to pieces and can't wait to start using it. I'm so giving you a hug if I see you at Nat's.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

CyberBlue: could you please post the 'protection' password? There are other pieces that are not on that list that teams might use. Such as different types of extruded aluminum. Bosch, 80/20, and IPS don't weigh the same, and a method 470 uses (what we call "cored IPS") to lighten IPS also isn't listed.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

The team is meeting Sunday evening and we will discuss either posting the password or posting a non-protected sheet.

Our intent was to protect the file and then we would add data as others informed us of new materials or errors. That way, we were always sure of the integrity of what was on the site.

Thanks to everyone for the positive words.

We will be working Sunday afternoon to weight any new materials in the 2004 kit and will get an update on line as wuickly as we can.

Please be sure to post any errors or new materials to the email indicated in te original post.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

We are going to keep the file as password protected for now.
Here is the plan for the database:

A new revision will be posted by the end of the day Friday (16 January)
and it will become the 2004 baseline file.

This new file will contain all of the new parts in the 2004 kit.

This new file will contain a section for CyberBlue to add new items in the future.

This new file will contain a user definable section where you can add your own unique materials. These additions will show in the overall weight calculation in the database.

If any corrections are made to an existing weight, it will be maintained in the same file location.

If a new item is added, it will be added in a 'reserved / additions' section at the bottom of the database.

These revision procedures will allow a user to 'cut and paste' data from the 2004 baseline into a 2004 revision and have the data in the right location.

Summary: New Baseline database to be posted by 16 January 2004.

Section I: 2004 Kit and other used materials
Section II: Reservable for new additions
Section III: User Definable

Please send new items to weights@cyberblue234.com.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

Matt,
When I was in high school (a long long time ago in a galaxy far away...) I worked for an auto parts store that had an actual tester for these devices that charged them up to full charge. We sold Delco parts and this part was from the Delco Remy line. After testing we would throw them to each other as a joke. Just one of the things that contributed to the callouses on my hands.
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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

We are sorry for the delay of the Weights Databse v 2.1. We wanted to make sure that all new kit parts were weighed, minus the parts the we were missing from FIRST. The new version contains 2 locked sections holding parts the people submit to be posted on the new database, as well as an unlocked section where individual teams may add their own parts and weights to their downloaded databases.

This version will be posted very shortly, I promise. Please continue to email weights@cyberblue234.com with parts and weights (and short descriptions if possible) that you would like to be put on the new database.

PLEASE NOTE: With the new version, parts would placed in their respective categories, so amounts are NOT "pasteable" from v1 to version 2.1. However, with all v.2's, amounts will be pasteable from one update to the next. The new parts that weights@cyberblue234.com recieves will be added at the end of the last locked category, so only those amounts will need added.

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Re: Cyber Blue 234 robot weights calculator

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We are sorry for the delay of the Weights Calculator v 2.1. We wanted to make sure that all new kit parts were weighed, minus the parts the we were missing from FIRST. The new version contains 2 locked sections holding parts the people submit to be posted on the new database, as well as an unlocked section where individual teams may add their own parts and weights to their downloaded databases.

This version will be posted very shortly, I promise. Please continue to email weights@cyberblue234.com with parts and weights (and short descriptions if possible) that you would like to be put on the new database.

PLEASE NOTE: With the new version, parts would placed in their respective categories, so amounts are NOT "pasteable" from v1 to version 2.1. However, with all v.2's, amounts will be pasteable from one update to the next. The new parts that weights@cyberblue234.com recieves will be added at the end of the last locked category, so only those amounts will need added.

Thank you for your patience,

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