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Re: Found the password for the manuals
I heard through a friend that his friend cracked the code in about two hours.
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Re: Found the password for the manuals
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I heard through a friend that his friend cracked the code in about two hours.
I think your friend is lying....

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Re: Found the password for the manuals
15 characters long
Starts with the number 2


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Overheard from an "associate" of mine.
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Maybe in the 18 hours from now till kickoff one of you whizzes will figure it out!
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Re: Found the password for the manuals
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Does this mean anything to anyone???

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Re: So many smart kids...
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... and no hackers? No one can break that code? Interesting. I'm not one to pass judgement, seeing as I'm no hacker and I've not even downloaded the files yet, but I can't believe that nobody has the CPU skills to hack that code. I hear of people cracking into government systems and changing the temperature in the White House, but nobody in this whole Robotics compitition could break that code. Hmm... Guess we'll just wait 'till tomorrow.
Maybe, there has been no reports of the code being hacked because no one here is stupid enough to make a fuss. Besides, if FIRST did find out about it they would either disqualify the team(s), or change the game.

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Maybe, there has been no reports of the code being hacked because no one here is stupid enough to make a fuss. Besides, if FIRST did find out about it they would either disqualify the team(s), or change the game.

They wouldnt change the game or DQ them, but the person definately would lose a lot of respect for doing it and publishing it.
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Re: Found the password for the manuals
Maybe they have broken the code, but there have been some very busy and fast admins partolling the Chief Delphi forum. Not like there is a problem with that, it would be best if we all just waited till, tommorow.
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Wait!!! lives?...thats a new concept
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Smart kids, hackers... whatever. We do have lives and can't spend them in front of the computer all

Wait? some ppl actually have lives?. I just have FIRST and computers, And build season is only 6 weeks.

That leaves alot of time for computer ;-)

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Does this mean anything to anyone???
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Yes, it means you just posted a bunch of worthless characters to the board for no reason. Anyone could have opened up the file in a text editor and seen the same thing, but we all know it's pointless.
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Re: Found the password for the manuals
Alright, first, FIRST is using really nice encryption here. It's unlikely and a cryptographically "hard" problem. (Hard means usually 1-20 years with a NSA supercomputer)

The weakest part of this implementation is the passphrase, FIRST knows enough to create a secure passphrase, however... with a dictionary attack combined with a hybrid random digit throwing on the beginnings and endings of the passphrase, one might be able to crack it. This is where the attack would come if anything... although, it's still kind of unlikely... as FIRST probably created something secure.

And then, one always has to account for something unexpected, like some small overlooked flaw.
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OOO I know exactly what all of that means. It means that there are words and pictures and all kinds of other stuff in between the bashing of the keyboard with some wierd font.

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Hey we can see what fonts they used. That solves the entire game! I mean, it must have something to do with Time, Romans and New stuff!
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Re: Found the password for the manuals
Yes, it means that this (*pokes screen*) is where the hash of the passphrase is so that the program can know if it is correct or not, and this (*pokes screen again*) is where the permissions are set.

The rest is the gibberish that happens to come when you encode something.

This is actually more than likely a cryptographically "annoying" problem. It's not hard, but it's not easy, mainly because it is (more likely than not) going to be made up of english words, and an applicable number or two.

I'd say that there is going to be 2004 at the beginning of it, and that was helped along by the above post. It is probably 2004[nameofgame] just so that it is harder to guess via a dictionary crack. If anyone is staying up really late tonight trying to find it, I can point you to a very good dictionary file (85,000).

If you find it out, feel free to email us all, and let us know. However, more than likely, we will not be awake to hear our computers announce an incoming message, so you'll be all alone in your glory.
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Actually, it was Woodie, Dave, and Dean...on the broadcast
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Yup^ That's it.
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