Good strategy?

[tkwetzel]

That has been debated here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=23651

[tkwetzel]

That last post of mine was referring to blocking the ball chutes.

[Celestial Rain]

ok well i read the post and understood it. My next question is it good to grab the 10 pt ball in the autonomous mode or hit it

Is it illegal to smack the pvc bars underneath the ball and try to get it inside the arena?

Also i noticed that the upper deck is a foot high. With torques involved, is there a good way to get up there?

[abeD]

Its a foot high off the ground, so if you are on the first platform(which is 6" off the floor) then you only have to go up another 6" to get to the top platform

[stuy694]

I like the idea, I also mentioned it in a post http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=23680.
But I'd also like to ask, how often as robots gonna hit/knock down both trigger balls in autonomous mode as there is like a foot of space between the two. Cuz if its likely that your opponent will trigger both ball releases then this design has a much better chance of winning even if your partner can't trigger the ball release.

[animater31405]

Ok. Now I have to make you look at the flip side. The cost, weight, power, and size of the robot are HUGE factors if you want to make a device like this especially the height issue. Not to mention how easy it is to break that. And, you may have a problem if you want to get the 50 points there for the taking. It's a good startegy if your robot is not able to do anything else for about a minute in the match.

[tkwetzel]

It is easy to design a catch system with enough power, strength, and size to accomplish this. And it should not be that exspensive either. And it still a good strategy, even if you still want to do other stuff.

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by animater31405

Ok. Now I have to make you look at the flip side. The cost, weight, power, and size of the robot are HUGE factors if you want to make a device like this especially the height issue. Not to mention how easy it is to break that. And, you may have a problem if you want to get the 50 points there for the taking. It's a good startegy if your robot is not able to do anything else for about a minute in the match.

now you are jumping from the big WHAT (should our robot do) to the big HOW (will the robot do that)

funny thing about engineering - the biggest mistakes are often not going after the best WHAT - taking on the best concept and finding a way.

I promise you - there will be bots at the events that find a way to catch every ball before it touches the floor - because they will focus on that, they will keep at it till an elegant solution pops into their mind at 3AM - and when you see it your jaw will hit the floor and you will spontainously say "Why didnt we think of that!"

Why - cause you gave up on it too soon - the solution didnt come to you in 30 minutes or less, so you thought it was too: hard, complicated, expensive...

Once you have the best answer to WHAT your robot should do, its time to start kissing frogs - keep thinking up possible solutions - most of them will be frogs - but sooner or later you will kiss one and it will turn into a beautiful thing.

Anything worthwhile takes a little time!

[Jedi Padawan]

We thought about that too in conjunction with a few other doo dads we could attatch and then realized how expensive in time for us it would be to produce that so we canned it. (Despite the fact I still think it's a relatively good strategy)

[KenWittlief]

what do you mean by a 'runner'?

a tethered bot? there is an entanglement rule this year - having a detachable baby bot on a wire probabally wont be allowed.