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IRC related chatting

Do any of yall get on IRC (internet relay chat)... asking because it would be alot easier to talk etc etc... not to mention im quite curious....

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Re: IRC related chatting

I used to get on IRC long ago, but then because of security issues, I stopped going on IRC servers. Yes, Its a lot fun to talk on there, unless its filled with a bunch of drowsy heads, which is rare.
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Re: IRC related chatting

nah no more security probs m8... its becomming better and better... still the occassional ping attack on the networks just not on accual ppl... because most all irc servers now require hostmasking which hides users hostmask + ip sooo them nasty dDoS jerks cant get ya

i have been ping attacked because of IRC though... it sucks

if you'd like to chat sometime ill give u a link to a nice small network ill chat with anybody i dont care (about FIRST; etc, etc.)
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Re: IRC related chatting

Yeah, Please do..

I have programmed tons of IRC bots, and I know one thing for certain, no matter how good an IRC serverz security be, its the easiest way to grab IPs. But Yes, You are right, security gets better everyday.
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Re: IRC related chatting

lol...

what kind of bots is the question... lol
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Re: IRC related chatting

Remember when MSN had free chat service. I believe it had a tough IP masking system. There were kids who managed to kick the Admins off, because they had Fibre Optics, which was more than what the Admins could handle. IRC Scripting is simple, and it gets more stable everyday . The wonder of IRC Programming lies in looping structures. And so does it in Autonomous mode(some cases).
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Re: IRC related chatting

hmm alot more secure these days with hostmasking on connect

only people that can see your real hosts are admins/ircops (and its becomming harder and harder to crack oper lines) that is if the server is setup correctly with encryption and better control over what hosts are allowed to oper...

theres only a few ways to really get a users ip

ive never done this but i assume u can by using a packet sniffer and telling/getting them to send you a file via dcc which should spit out what ip they are on, that is unless the ircd acts as a go between, but i dont know for 100%

the real enemy is common normal users, so if u think of it that way, if theres good admins, and a good server setup u are perty safe, but still watch who u mess with if u dont want to get ping attacked by a 12yr old who doesnt linux, and gets offened when u say its better then windows.... (true story...)

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Re: IRC related chatting

lol.. Its not the 20 yr oldz and the 15yr oldz, its the 12 yr oldz. NO offence to those 12 yr. oldz here, but those are the kids who just know the minimum, and use that to attack servers online. YEAH, windows is the worst operating system you want to get attacked upon. IP masking has become old, its just that it gets better. The thing is, you can make your IP appear different to the Admins too. Therefore, with your wrong IP being displayed, it makes no effect if they ban you. And then it becomes easy to play around. Fortunately, there are IRC Filters, rare though, but they can stop almost anything.
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Re: IRC related chatting

Yes acctually, many people use the Tigerbolt FIRST Chat, which is an IRC chatroom

it can be found on this website: http://www.rit.edu/~us1stwww/chat.html
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Re: IRC related chatting

BAH i hate java applets.... as for spoofing its EASY just get a good proxy list

+ most servers have ssl now )))))))))

ill have to try to get the accual server name and connect via mirc or irssi or something... TY
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BAH i hate java applets.... as for spoofing its EASY just get a good proxy list

+ most servers have ssl now )))))))))

ill have to try to get the accual server name and connect via mirc or irssi or something... TY
Anybody else find it ironic that this thread should've happened in some sort of chat room?

Anyway.. the Tigerbolt chat is on irc.webmaster.com
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