Notepad Baby!

[Phish32786]

Our website is just starting off and whatever but my buddy who did the design did it all in Dreamweaver. Not that is hardcore or anything but I think it came out nicely. Anyways I do all the little notes and blah blah blah in notepad. I think useing programs like Dreamweaver makes it real easy for people to learn HTML if your too lazy to pick up a book and read about it. Plus with PHP and mySQL you really can't use anything but a notepad or equivlent to edit/make those parts.

[DarkAlex]

I used some non-notepad things for my sites at first, but that I found that it was counterproductive when it came to minimizing file size and combining different text. Notepad is really useful just because it can do almost anything and it doesn't care, or know, when you use different languages in the same document. I have never used anything but notepad to write my non-HTML commands. I'm actually currently redesigning a website, in notepad, so that it runs mostly in the external JavaScripts, risky because some might not have Javascripts enabled, but there is a huge benefit because it makes it so that the files are only about 127 bytes for the entire page. (Reference a JavaScript at the beginning and another at the end and the entire page is constructed, minus the content.)

[Trashed20]

Originally Posted by Phish32786

Our website is just starting off and whatever but my buddy who did the design did it all in Dreamweaver. Not that is hardcore or anything but I think it came out nicely. Anyways I do all the little notes and blah blah blah in notepad. I think useing programs like Dreamweaver makes it real easy for people to learn HTML if your too lazy to pick up a book and read about it. Plus with PHP and mySQL you really can't use anything but a notepad or equivlent to edit/make those parts.

Actually, Dreamweaver can do some mySQL and PHP for you, but most users wouldn't want to figure out how, or find it too limiting. Hand coding is the shizzle

[Dave Hurt]

Oh, let's see... mostly dreamweaver, crimson editor, and visual studio.net 2003. Dreamweaver is very nice for doing rapid development work, building up forms and such. I absolutly hate using the php code that dreamweaver generates, unless I have to. It's just so ugly. The best thing I like about dreamweaver mx is you can switch between homesite and dreamweaver styles. There's also a large amount of custom developed plug in's for dreamweaver that make life alot easier. Why do the work when most of it has been done for you?

Anyhow, as for websites I've done... www.bane-online.com, www.ribcrackers.org, www.international3d.org. All in php with mysql backend. Unfortunaly, everything thing I've done in asp.net is on the corporate intranet, so I can't show that off. Cool stuff though...

Originally Posted by iamnafets

I would like to know how many other webmasters out there do their site design COMPLETELY in notepad. Yes, flash for flash and whatever for image editing but everything else notepad. Please post a link so I can see. I get great satisfaction seeing something pretty coming out of such a low level utility. Extra points if you use PHP or a server-side langauge and use a text file database instead of a wussy MySQL database.

I'm the webmaster for my team's website, and I code in Notepad only (wait - and sometimes I use vi when I'm using telnet... anyway...). Our site is:
http://nrg.chaosnet.org/

Extra points:
I use PHP.
I wrote my own database class to store/retrieve data, not MySQL.

[D.Viddy]

Please don't claim notepad when you use some kind of SH program. I design professional websites for companies and I do all of my ASP (VBScript), SQL, JavaScript, and CSS by hand in Dreamweavers code view. Any real web developer knows that anyone dumb enough to use straight notepad is just that, DUMB. So come on, you aren't impressing anyone by claiming notepad. Tell us what you really use. Oh yeah and by the way our site is:

http://www.codebend.net/robotics998/
http://www.codebend.net

Remember both of these sites were written in Dreamweaver's Code View and are entirely database driven. Thanks

[Jeremy_Mc]

Originally Posted by D.Viddy

Please don't claim notepad when you use some kind of SH program. I design professional websites for companies and I do all of my ASP (VBScript), SQL, JavaScript, and CSS by hand in Dreamweavers code view. Any real web developer knows that anyone dumb enough to use straight notepad is just that, DUMB. So come on, you aren't impressing anyone by claiming notepad. Tell us what you really use. Oh yeah and by the way our site is:

http://www.codebend.net/robotics998/
http://www.codebend.net

Remember both of these sites were written in Dreamweaver's Code View and are entirely database driven. Thanks

I'm not sure who _you_ were aiming to impress by this post...I, too, design "professional websites" for companies, but I use a notepad-like editor (it just supports *nix formatted files).

Not to say using Dreamweaver is "dumb" but it IS to say some people don't need to be told what a string is by coloring it red and where the keywords are by making them blue. I also don't need to be able to generate code or use auto-complete. I'm comfortable enough to use a plain-text editor to type it out plain and simple.

[Dave Hurt]

The reason I don't code in notepad is it doesn't format the code. Dreamweaver, crimson editore, and studio.net all do that. Anyways, isn't the programmers motto program smarter, not harder? Why reinvent the wheel, when things have already been done and are available to you?

[ZeoFateX]

I only use notepad heh http://www.montvillecompclub.org our computer club website. Not full functional yet since it's new ^_^

[Jeremy_Mc]

Originally Posted by Dave Hurt

The reason I don't code in notepad is it doesn't format the code. Dreamweaver, crimson editore, and studio.net all do that. Anyways, isn't the programmers motto program smarter, not harder? Why reinvent the wheel, when things have already been done and are available to you?

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

[Aignam]

Originally Posted by Jeremy_Mc

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

I agree. In a sleeper web design class that I used to meet computer requirements, my teacher forced us to do some assignments in Microsoft Frontpage. I was a bit upset and dismayed over this, so I used Frontpage's nifty 'insert custom code' feature, and typed in my html there. Needless to say, Mrs. xxx didn't like that one bit..

[ZeoFateX]

Personally, I can't stand front page... it doesn't allow me to customise stuff the way I want -- it inserts $@#$@#$@#$@# where I don't need it, same with Dreamweaver...

[MissAbi]

For my E100 class at U-M Dearborn, we're confined to notepad. Here is what I have so far: www.engin.umd.umich.edu/~abigayle

[D.Viddy]

Originally Posted by Jeremy_Mc

Is it really that hard to press tab?

And I ask the same question to you...why use some fancy bloatware text editor when you can skim it down? I always thought programmers were all about efficiency, portability, and usability I don't see how if you get pampered by a SH program with 300 toolbars and keyboard shortcuts for everything (including "Ctrl+Shift+C for warm Cappucino") that you'll be able to survive in an environment without anything that fancy?

Don't attack me! I'm just posing a question.

Yeah I would really hate to be effiecient by using a "bloatware" application. Plus I'm not trying to impress you boners. Bye

[DrWorm]

Let me just say....

VI Forever!!!



Really, it's hard to use at first, but once you get the hang of it, you can edit REALLY fast, and the syntax highlighting makes it easy to read.

I mean really... Notepad? What if my PHP code has an error on line 529?

How do you get to 529 quickly in notepad? I just hit :529[enter].

And yes, theres a Windows version.

So, if you ever have a few hours to spare, download it and try to learn it. In the long run, you may be glad that you did.

Or you may end up hating it a lot.

- Sharp
:wq