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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

although It's possible one could make a casterbot that worked reasonably well, I can tell you from experience that looking for a 2 wheel 2 caster drive train is in general the easiest way to pick out the inexperienced teams from the crowd. The casterbots that manage to retain even a mediocre level of competitiveness are few and far between.

4 wheel drive works fine. 6 wheel drive works better still.
In short, avoid casters AT ALL COSTS. They will be your downfall.
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

I Never Want to see A caster On A robot Again EVER! There unstable the verry "Wolbbyness" that makes them work is There aqdvantage and There Disadvantage The lack of horisontal stabilty makes it turn when you try to stop it from turning A 130LB robot with a caster is The most frustrating 2 minutes Of your life to drive Of course thatss been my experience To some people who have used a diferent drivetrain Casters may be a Godsend but in my experence I dont like them at all
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

The only reason that I would ever stick a castor on a robot would be to help turn. I would use a cylinder to engage or retract it, but I would never let two of them be in constant contact with the ground. If you had been around in past years, you would see robots with two driven wheels and two castors like you said. Basically, they would spin around like crazy, with very little control.

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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

Our team is going with two wheels in the back and skids up front. (Gives a new definition to skid steer- doesn't it ) The skids will be made of Delrin and give omnicaster like abilities with the neccessary machining complexities.
You might want to consider this method over the infamous castor, or you will have a story to add to it.
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

i also would not recommend casters. four wheel drive is sufficient, six wheel drive may be going overboard. if you're looking for on-the-dime turning, why not try a trick wheel? for those of you who dont know, a trick wheel is a normal wheel, but with a whole lot of miniature discs going around the perimiter. the miniature discs allow the wheel to slide sideways, yet they provide sufficient traction for rotating foward.
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

When our team used casters on past robots, it worked well. We went in straight lines and didn't have any problems with them. I think the wobbly factor that some of you are talking about is maybe because there is not enough weight on the castor or it is not parallel to the ground. If you are going to go up the steps, then i wouldn't suggest casters, go with 4-6 wheel drive for that
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

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i also would not recommend casters. four wheel drive is sufficient, six wheel drive may be going overboard. if you're looking for on-the-dime turning, why not try a trick wheel? for those of you who dont know, a trick wheel is a normal wheel, but with a whole lot of miniature discs going around the perimiter. the miniature discs allow the wheel to slide sideways, yet they provide sufficient traction for rotating foward.
Search for "omniwheels" to get more information on such a "trick wheel"

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The only reason that I would ever stick a castor on a robot would be to help turn. I would use a cylinder to engage or retract it, but I would never let two of them be in constant contact with the ground. If you had been around in past years, you would see robots with two driven wheels and two castors like you said. Basically, they would spin around like crazy, with very little control.

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Yeah, castors that extend and retract are great for a robot with four wheel and too much traction. We were tripping breakers when we turned until we put the casters on. Just a tip, get sturdy casters and if you use pneumatic cyclinders do everything you can to protect the rod. They don't like side loads and the machine shop guys get tired of bending them back. Also, only lift so that the turning wheels touch and the others barely touch.
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Re: Effectiveness of Casters

Team 103, the Cybersonics, used two casters in their 2003 robot. That machine gave more or less every robot a run for their money. I'm not too certain of the specifics, or how it worked, but you most certainly can build a competetive and successful robot using casters.
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although It's possible one could make a casterbot that worked reasonably well, I can tell you from experience that looking for a 2 wheel 2 caster drive train is in general the easiest way to pick out the inexperienced teams from the crowd. The casterbots that manage to retain even a mediocre level of competitiveness are few and far between.

4 wheel drive works fine. 6 wheel drive works better still.
In short, avoid casters AT ALL COSTS. They will be your downfall.

I disagree ........

We are a very experienced team (34), we will be utilizing some very cool casters, we will be on top of the platform, and we WILL be competitive.

You just have to think outside that norm a little ........
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