i see alot of ball getters

[GregT]

All i've got to say is if you grab 3 goals you better have one heck of a drive train, because i know i would go after you.

Remember, any team can push goals, dosn't matter if they are ball getters.

Incase you haven't figured it out, i think that the extra weight of that thrid goal gripper would be better spent elsewhere- 1 is good, 2 is great, 3 is overkill.

Probably wrong,
Greg

[Mike Norton]

There are a lot of factors that will determine which robots will be king.

yes there are lots of fators but only one that will do well


If your robot is the strongest and can move goals at will that is the robot that will win.

If there is a good ball handler what can he do if he doen't have a goal to put them in.


after playing the game at Quincy MA . It prove that having a strong robot will and can score big points.

The only way you won't score big point if the other team trys not to get points. That happen once. at that time both robots went into the other team end zone to score 20 point which x3 = 60.

so having two strong robots. you can do almost anything you wish to do.

[Joe Johnson]

... but I believe that it will be more complex when the dust settles.

The central question as far as I can noodle it out in advance is this:

Can two of the BEST goal handlers get 3 goals tied up before ANYOTHER robot can effectly get one and keep it out to of the hands of the other two?

If the answer is yes, then this game boils down to nothing but a shoving match of the best pushers out there with balls being a total non-factor.

If the answer is no, then balls spell the doom of the pushers.

I don't believe this is a simple question. One day I am sure the pushers will rule the day. The next I am sure that ball handling is key.

As I say... ...time will tell...

Joe J.

[Mike Norton]

it is not to hard to get the goals. there is no place to hide.

the best part is the goal are so big it is very easy to grab them.

in one of the matches a team brought there goal to the there side to throw balls in. they put all ten balls in. but the problem was we had one goal and we use this goal to block them from ever coming out of there end zone. so we ended up get the point for the ten balls. this is only one way of playing the game

once again if you have the strong robot your chance of placing the point is much greater then one that does not have power.


rember it take time to pick up balls the time you are picking up ball the strong robot are taking the goals.

I hope we get pair up with good ball handler for the seeding round. you can get alot more point. with the help of your teammate.

but you can win every match by sure power.

[emilywll]

I think that a versitile team will have an advantage in this game. Our team can acquire two goals and acquire, store, and shoot balls.

[Solace]

Originally posted by Chris Hibner


This is not true. 3 goals in the goal scoring zone is 30 points and is impossible to beat since without any goals, the most a team can score is 20 pts for their two robots in the end zone.

That would be stupid. If the other teams realize that they can't win without any goals, all that they would have to do was make sure to stay out of their own end zone and the "winning" team would recieve ZERO qualification points

[Mike Norton]

That would be stupid. If the other teams realize that they can't win without any goals, all that they would have to do was make sure to stay out of their own end zone and the "winning" team would recieve ZERO qualification points

This has been tried. to stop that you can simply put your robots into there end zone for 20 points

20 x 3 =60 points

[Curtis Williams]

I think that a fast single-goal grabber will be useful in any round. It will deny those 3-goal robots the third goal, and maybe the second one. And what good is a ball loader if it cant get hold a of a goal?

[GregT]

Of course 0 points for you means 0 points for them. They still get 20 points if they end with 20, they would have to have a good reason for doing that too you.

Greg

[Alfred Thompson]

SO you have a three goal grabber. Can you grab all three before the other team can get even one? Probably not. So the other side grabs one goal, puts 20-40 balls in it. Then your goal grabber, pulling the two goals it already has, is going to catch and out pull the other robot? Frankly, I don't think so.

[ReijiH]

Even if one robot managed to get three goals really quickly early in the game.....question is, would it be able to hold on to it for the rest of nearly 2min that'd be left of the match?

[Greg Ross]

Originally posted by ReijiH
btw, two lefts does not make a right

Right, but three do!

[kevinw]

Originally posted by Solace


That would be stupid. If the other teams realize that they can't win without any goals, all that they would have to do was make sure to stay out of their own end zone and the "winning" team would recieve ZERO qualification points

If my team left our home zone to spite the winning alliance, we'd only be hurting ourselves. Not only would we also end up with zero qualifying points, but I'm certain that if either of our opponents were in a position to pick an alliance partner, they'd think more than twice before picking up my team.

[Mike Norton]

Probably not. So the other side grabs one goal, puts 20-40 balls in it.

if the other team puts 40 balls into the other goal we would drop what we have and take that goal.

What a concept, another team works hard to get more point for you to take away.

[Joe Johnson]

If my team left our home zone to spite the winning alliance, we'd only be hurting ourselves. Not only would we also end up with zero qualifying points, but I'm certain that if either of our opponents were in a position to pick an alliance partner, they'd think more than twice before picking up my team.

I disagree.

The rules of the game are clear. In the elimination rounds, it is winner take all, but in the seeding rounds, the name of the game is maximize seeding points.

I think it is perfectly okay for a alliance to score zero in an effort to make the other alliance give up a goal.

To me, it is all part of the game.

Similarly, a team that builds a killer seeding round robot and then picks the best elimination round robots to win a regional has just as much claim to the title as the two robots that won all the matches in the elims.

Again, the rules are clear. We are all trying to maximize our chances of winning a tourney while staying within the rules.

I'm good with it anyway...

Joe J.