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I'm not worried about this "scenerio" one bit. This whole thread is a big "what if". im not critizing the posters but the idea is a bit out there. I liked the idea of the rules being intrepeted by the intent of the rules.

Small balls get in a goal, they stay there.
put a big ball on top of your goal get 2x small balls
Hang off the top bar get points

so some people try to think of ways to get around the rules (ie. skepticizing the rules like a lawyer). Dean himself said that he didn't want this. So now we have to find LEGAL ways to descore.

theres plenty of ways to stop scoring this year. They are very obvious to me and within the rules. But if everyone wants to argue about how to get around the rules and still get penalized thats fine with me. Just don't approach my drive team starting with "first we're gonna jam that 2x ball hard in the oppenents goal"
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Re: 2x multiplier removal secnario

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Just don't approach my drive team starting with "first we're gonna jam that 2x ball hard in the oppenents goal"
Then what?

This is getting ridiculous. I think FIRST should clarify the difference between grabbing a 2x and touching a 2x in order to push it out of a goal. They seem to be contradicting themselves, and that isn't a good thing. Let's see how many unfortunate teams go to their first regional with an illegal robot because things weren't spelled out black and white.
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Then what?

This is getting ridiculous. I think FIRST should clarify the difference between grabbing a 2x and touching a 2x in order to push it out of a goal. They seem to be contradicting themselves, and that isn't a good thing. Let's see how many unfortunate teams go to their first regional with an illegal robot because things weren't spelled out black and white.
Expect an official clarification from FIRST within the next update or two.

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I'm not worried about this "scenerio" one bit. This whole thread is a big "what if". im not critizing the posters but the idea is a bit out there. I liked the idea of the rules being intrepeted by the intent of the rules.
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My issue is not that I'm trying to do this as a strategy, far from it. I'm afriad of being faced with this situation during a match and being forced to make a split second decision on my own reactions. If another team descores me, will a penalty be imposed on them or not? It's crucial for me as a driver to know this as it will determine how I continue playing (i.e. do I score a couple of points for the opposing alliance if their lacking or not?). You can't just say "This isn't the intent and you shouldn't do it". Most of us on this forum play by the rules, but there are those that don't. I, as a driver, need to have every strategy and point combination possible in the back of my mind at all times.
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Re: 2x multiplier removal secnario

In my opinion, the 'ball is part of the robot' rule was intended to prevent teams from using the ball to block the other team from scoreing.

They responded to this, and the implications were not completly thought out.


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