FIRST logo

[iBob]

thank you very much for all your help. I appreciate the responses.

[thoughtful]

I have email the officials asking if my logo is fine, its almost same jsut more hilights and looks 3d, i hope they approve it

[kjohnson]

I have the logo that FIRST has on their site on our team's site. Would that be OK? Its the old one with SM not the new one with R - but they haven't changed their logo yet and I haven't been about to get the new one to resize too great, it geats real grainy and isn't clear for how small I want it to be. The software for photo editing on this computer isn't too great either so thats part of the problem. Does anyone have a small version of the new logo and can post a link?

[jonathan lall]

Originally Posted by thoughtful

I have email the officials asking if my logo is fine, its almost same jsut more hilights and looks 3d, i hope they approve it

They won't approve a change so drastic. I suggest you make it the normal one off their website now.

[Petey]

Originally Posted by jonathan lall

They won't approve a change so drastic. I suggest you make it the normal one off their website now.

They don't allow any modifications. I had a nice conversation with a Mr. Ken Freitas about this.

Chris,

The logo should be used as is. Alterations do erode the legal trademark protection.

Thanks
Ken

At 03:03 PM 1/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Thank you for the response. While I am disappointed that I cannot use my version of the logo, I understand.

What are the parameters for alteration of the FIRST logo? I need to know this so I can change the logo so, while it is still in compliance with the guidelines you have, it is also consistent with our web site's color scheme.

Thank you,

--Chris Peterson
On Jan 12, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Ken Freitas wrote:

Chris,

Thanks for your note and request for logo usage permission.

Unfortunately, the FIRST logo cannot be altered as submitted.
Trademark protection does not allow the logo/trademark to be altered as such.

The FIRST logo is available on our FIRST Robotics Competition Resource Center.at the following link:
http://www.usfirst.org/volunteers/re...ics/index.html


Thanks for your understanding and cooperation,
Ken Freitas


At 12:23 PM 1/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Mr. Freitas.

My name is Chris Peterson. I am the primary webmaster for team 1073.

After having read the updated Website Design Award rubric, I realized that our teams website, http://www.theforceteam.com, was missing a very important component: namely, a relatively prominent link back to the FIRST webpage using the FIRST logo.

To remedy this problem, I fooled around with the FIRST logo in Photoshop so that the inclusion of the logo and link would meet the criteria for the color scheme as well.

It was only afterwards that someone at ChiefDelphi kindly informed me that I was not allowed to alter the FIRST logo without consulting FIRST...er, first.

The image in question can be seen at http://www.theforceteam.com/Images/Links/firstlink.gif. To see how it is incorporated into our website navbar, please visit http://www.theforceteam.com.

I believe that this image meets the criteria for "Positive Promotion". I also plan to include information on how we "legally" changed the logo for the purposes of our website.

Please let me know what you think ASAP.

Thank you,
--Chris Peterson
Webmaster for Team 1073

[Jon K.]

Originally Posted by Petey

They don't allow any modifications. I had a nice conversation with a Mr. Ken Freitas about this.

I believe it might have something to do with what you did with the FIRST that is causing you the issues, becuase RAGE was given permission to modify the logo as shown here. We are using this desing for our Tenth anniversary shirts and our new Hooded sweatshirts. So as long as the changes aren't to do with things such as the way you have FIRST and then the sm it will probably be approved.

[Petey]

Well, I might email Mr. Freitas back about that, because his reply certainly didn't seem to agree with what you just said. Perhaps he was having a bad day....

--Petey

[Jon K.]

Originally Posted by Petey

Well, I might email Mr. Freitas back about that, because his reply certainly didn't seem to agree with what you just said. Perhaps he was having a bad day....

--Petey

I wouldn't neccisarily do that becuase it seems like he was pretty sure as to what he was talking about. It could be that becuase you were not modifying it for something such as a shirt or something like that he said no versus making the modification on a website and altering it that much so that the FIRST sm no longer looks like what they request. It seems that they want a uniform image when linking to their website. I am not sure though, altho I do believe it goes into more detail in section two of the FRC 2004 manual about what they will and will not accept and allow in terms of modifications made.

[K.Shaw]

that is one kick @$$ logo rage lol

[Trashed20]

Originally Posted by Jon K.

I believe it might have something to do with what you did with the FIRST that is causing you the issues, becuase RAGE was given permission to modify the logo as shown here. We are using this desing for our Tenth anniversary shirts and our new Hooded sweatshirts. So as long as the changes aren't to do with things such as the way you have FIRST and then the sm it will probably be approved.

Reminds me of a little diddy I did in 3ds max a while ago



The rip was animated, and the camera moved around, but basic concept.

Very cool logo