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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
oh yea thats 1 more thing. we have tons of members, but only 2 show up. And of course he does a ton of work.
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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
something Ive learned over the years- some people work on a project, and some people DO a project
the whole idea of ownership - in every project that gets done there is usually one person who takes it on themselves to make it happen, who engages themself to the task, who makes it their personal responsibility thing about this is: a person must have enough confidence in their skills and ablilities to be able to take ownership - when you have new people who dont understand everything the project entails, they will show up and poke at it, work 'on' it, but they wont have the self confidence to 'do' the project - to be responsible for it. Im not talking about the bot as a whole - there are many subsystems that have to happen, that have to be assembled, and you can have several people each taking ownership for one subsystem - the drivetrain, the electronics, the SW, the pneumatics maybe what you need to do is deligate responsibility to people who can handle the subsystems (if you have enough experienced people) - take them aside one on one and tell them, " I need you to take ownership of the pneumatics..." and make sure they know, if they dont make their subsystem work one way or another, then your team will have a fancy statue at the regional this year. |
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YEs i understand, but people say they are going to do stuff and they dont. Liek they say they are going to show up at luch and they dont. They would rather go snowboarding than go to roboitcs.
I try to tell them that you have to manage your time. but they dont get that this is a commintment. Also most of them a freshmen....so..lol |
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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
You may be able to private message some of the engineers and mentors that have replied in this forum to get some personal advice. You may also get some differing opinions that way. It may help and you may get more advice than posting some of your inter-team concerns on the forums.
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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
By the way, thx for all your help.
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FIRST is not about optimization...
I know this is a relatively old thread, but I am just reading it for the first time tonight -- it is amazing how designing and building a robot in 6 weeks cuts into the light reading time ;-)
Anyway, I agree fully with much that has been already said (especially KenW's stuff -- I am starting to like that Ken guy). I won't repeat what others have said. But I do have something I would like to add. One thing I have often thought about in the last 8 years of FIRST is that many engineers think about FIRST as an optimization problem. I cannot disagree with this more. FIRST is more like finding a unique solution and then settling on an implementation of that solution that is "good enough" (e.g. NOT optimized). Think about it this way. Back in the year when we had tubes (1998, I think). That year, you either had a solution to get tubes above the "tube tree" or you didn't. If you didn't, all the optimizing of your gear ratios, counterbalances, coefficients of friction, etc. was not going to add up to a hill of beans. If you did, you could get by with all the sub-optimal solutions to the rest of the sub-problems. In this sense, FIRST is not about optimization, in fact, optimization is often the more of the PROBLEM than the SOLUTION. My second observation about FIRST is that there are some many hurdles to get over in FIRST, that if you manage to get over all of them without falling down, you will likely be close to the front of the pack because so many of the opponents will have fallen on at least one hurdle. In this way, if you have one of the top drive trains, with one of the best arms, with a top level autonomous mode, with a better than average driver, with a better than average scouting team, with a better than average strategy team, etc. you will ALMOST CERTAINLY be a top fininsher. Bottom line: Optimal battery postion & orientation rarely wins you a single match! Joe J. |
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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
I feel you're pain.
My first year on the team, we spent an entire meeting discussing whether or not we should have one gripper or two. Most of the points made were just being repeated and we wasted a lot of time. Last year, our team had the same problem, but not as bad. Both years, we had trouble getting our robot out on time and no time to practice. This year, we got most of our strategizing done in the first meeting. Our robot currently is further along then last years was when we shipped it. Some lessons require failure. You said a lot of the people on your team are freshmen. If you stick with it, eventually they'll learn, if not from you, them from first-hand experience. |
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Re: Engineer Help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
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Seriously though, i can understand, it can be frustrating. At least in the end, you can take all the credit ![]() |
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