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View Poll Results: Your robots abilities.
Small balls with a plow 11 5.73%
plow + big ball 13 6.77%
plow + bar 18 9.38%
plow + big ball + bar 57 29.69%
small balls in an onboard hopper 6 3.13%
hopper + big ball 17 8.85%
hopper + bar 7 3.65%
hopper + big ball + bar 25 13.02%
small balls are worthless. why bother with them? 12 6.25%
are you kidding? we're just trying to get the wheels to move! 26 13.54%
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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unless, of course, one is capable of attaching to the bar and winching up in a very very short period of time...
who said everyone was winching up? maybe some teams will 'hop' up
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

Or what about latching on and blocking them from getting your ball and pulling yourself up in the last seconds.
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

if you can really do a good job collecting a good enough amount of those small balls, I think you have the bar set high against the other team- it's all about whose got more, and where. imagine a round where all you've got are big ball grabbers, and less-than-adequate plowers... then how many balls have you got?

We plan on holding 5 balls at a time, and have a fast drivetrain to accomodate it. (and we'll probably hang, too)
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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unless, of course, one is capable of attaching to the bar and winching up in a very very short period of time...
Or capable of protecting their goals while hanging...
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

i can't wait to see a robot that protects and/or moves the balls while hanging- it will look AWESOME
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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It's possible. My team's problem was we built the robot first and now we are just starting to design it. ....
Ha! I thought we were the only ones doing that!

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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

Big balls, small balls, hanging, protecting...this is the beauty of this years game. FIRST has done so well in the game design this year, that no matter what type of robot you build, you can do well. Remember, for every strategy, there is a counter strategy. To make matters even more interesting, for every counter strategy, there is another counter strategy. In the end, this game is comming down to one major thing...who is the most intelegent, and who is the most prepared. Get ready for the most complex game of chess ever played on a FIRST playingfield!

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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

team strategies are entirely dependant on alliances and their partners...like mentioned before, there is no one strategy that trumps the others. The problem is that it just is very nearly impossible to design and build a robot that can effectively hang, and protect your goals at the same time. That means that by hanging, you will be sacrificing the time you spend hanging and possibly giving the other team a way to advance on your lead. It's all about alliance partners this year...what the other can do...
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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i can't wait to see a robot that protects and/or moves the balls while hanging- it will look AWESOME
the wait wont be long if ur gonna be at the New Jersey or Chessapeake regionals.
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The problem is that it just is very nearly impossible to design and build a robot that can effectively hang, and protect your goals at the same time.
Bingo.

If I had to venture right now... I'd say that the final seconds won't be a frenzy of hanging, but rather a frenzy to cap / decap and protect your capped goal. If you have more than 10 balls in your goal, you MUST defend the cap if it's threatened, and you MUST try to decap if your opponent can hang.

I think it's pretty cut and dry...

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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

if you try to protect your cap ball while you are hanging, then you cant be touching it at the end of the match, or you are not 'completely' supported by the bar only

I expect the judges to rule if you are touching the 2X ball in a goal, then you get no points for hanging.
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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if you try to protect your cap ball while you are hanging, then you cant be touching it at the end of the match, or you are not 'completely' supported by the bar only

I expect the judges to rule if you are touching the 2X ball in a goal, then you get no points for hanging.

Not only that, but if you are touching the large ball on top of your goal, then it is not considered to be capping the goal, so you'd not get the multiplier, and not get the points for hanging.
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we can fit 20+ balls in our hopper and control the 2x ball.. w0-0t w0-0t
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Re: POLL: have small balls been abandoned?

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we can fit 20+ balls in our hopper and control the 2x ball.. w0-0t w0-0t
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