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Re: Freshman Positives

hahahah thats so great. It's really funny because it's true.
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1."fetch" (please be specific as to whether you meant drill bit or mill bit)
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3."get out of the way" (please be kind to our freshmen when using this one)
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Re: Freshman Positives

having them look for nonexistant parts is also fun ie: a metric cresent wrench
but seriously we need them if we want this organization to continue
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Re: Freshman Positives

What about the freshman who know more than the seniors and are harder workers. Or the 8th grader who learns six machines in 3 weeks...yeh, we got 'em. Brains and hard work aren't necessarily about age or grade.
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What about the freshman who know more than the seniors and are harder workers. Or the 8th grader who learns six machines in 3 weeks...yeh, we got 'em. Brains and hard work aren't necessarily about age or grade.
I agree. When I hear of people making fun of freshmen, I tend to think more about lazy seniors then stupid freshmen.
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Re: Freshman Positives

Well as a freshman (I'm now a senior) the team leader/driver who was a senior at the time was in the same room as me in the hotels for both regionals and nats. Him and his senior friend developed what they liked to call "Freshman Privilege" in which they would do anything to torment us freshmen. I remember one such occurence was when i got locked out of my room and then only to have the door opened and have all this water dumped on me not the greatest of times..soo.. i treat most of the freshman ok because of my traumatic experiences but by no means do they get away with anything, and yes they still have to do the menial jobs but dont all freshman?
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Re: Freshman Positives

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I remember one such occurence was when i got locked out of my room and then only to have the door opened and have all this water dumped on me
Awww ... that's horrible.

I know this thread was started in good fun and I'm glad to see it's stayed that way. I just wanted to throw this out there for the people who might take this thread a little more seiously than it was intended ...

When I was a freshman on 93, I wasn't treated lower than anyone else. True, I knew next to nothing when it came to electronics and mechanics, but that didn't mean I spent the year fetching aluminum magnets and metric crescent wrenches -- I spent the time learning from the people with more experience than me. I hope all the "lazy seniors" can teach the "stupid freshmen" a thing or two before their time on the team is up, rather than making the freshmen play 'fetch'.

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Keep in mind without Freshmen we couldn't have anyone else, whos gonna take over the robotics team!?
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Keep in mind without Freshmen we couldn't have anyone else, whos gonna take over the robotics team!?
Yes I know this whole thread was started as fun but heres a little food for thought...
I know that freshman on my team are treated now as equals, all people on 250 are treated as equals and that is how we do things. I dont know how other teams do things but age and grade is no different then gender and race which has no effect to our team. Many of you should take a lil more time to think of what you post on here because these forums are read by many FIRST staff and what you say reflects upon your whole team.

P.S.~ werent we all freshman at a time and arent freshman the people who are taking over our teams as we graduate?
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werent we all freshman at a time?
not everyone .. i went from grade eight to grade 10 .. but still completed all the work for all my grade 9 courses ... try that one on ...

as to treating freshmen .. we have one on our team and we treat him the same .. sure i call him a freshman some of the time ... but its all jokes and he knows it ...

and going to find non-existant tools ?? making people (not just freshman) find something non-existant (not just tools) is common within the team .... my engineer told me (a junior) yesterday to find a left-handed screwdriver .. but then again he was calling a hammer a hacksaw and a nut a screw ... and one time he left us alone to have the motors hooked up by the time he got back ... when we saw him coming back we werent done yet so i led him around the building to find a monkey .. hahaha .. now thats a joke between the team ....
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Re: Freshman Positives

I'm insulted. I'm way smarter than anyone else on our team and I'm a freshmen.
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Re: Freshman Positives

When I was one last year, I came at the perfect time - I was the only one who had a clue as to how to program the darn thing. I learned PBASIC in a grand total of a few hours, and earned some respect very quickly like that
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Re: Freshman Positives

Freshmen, like all people, come in good and bad varieties. The issue normally is that given that freshmen are younger, there is a tendency to be immature (not that all freshmen or younger are immature and not that all those who are older are mature; I've met adults who are less mature than high school students).

Immaturity can be difficult to deal with but there are ways to handle it. Normally, these issues would mainly fall to the mentors to deal with. One of the key things is to keep everyone busy, even if it's with fairly simple tasks. Start with simple tasks and after they've mastered those, build the tasks into more complex ones. This is good for everyone and has the advantage of taking those who are immature and helping them build maturity.

Now, that said, on our team, we have exactly one senior. We have a good number of freshmen and because of the way the school is setup, we have a good number of students who would be middle school aged. Some of our best workers are those who are freshmen or middle school students. Frankly, I didn't know that they were that age until I asked. So being a freshmen doesn't mean that you're going to just get in the way but it can take some more effort to make sure you don't.

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Re: Freshman Positives

The way our club is set up (ours is a CLUB AND A TEAM to the guy above), since we draw students from about 20 schools instead of one, its hard to find older students interested. We had about 80% Sophomores/Juniors in 2001, but now we only have two seniors, three juniors, and about 8 sophomores. I am a freshman, but have been on the team four years, giving me a *little* more experience than the 10/11 graders just joining this year... (nothing against you guys, you are great) The annoying thing, not to be hypocritical, is the younger 7th/8th graders that got recruited, mainly since most of them do not show maturity and cannot stay on task. There have been about three or four of them that come to meetings regularly and have a positive effect on the effort. The rest of them I believe would have a better time in the FLL team...

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Re: Freshman Positives

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and yes they still have to do the menial jobs but dont all freshman?
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Re: Freshman Positives

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having them look for nonexistant parts is also fun ie: a metric cresent wrench
but seriously we need them if we want this organization to continue
or a wire stretcher

really though, our freshmen have been a tremendous help this year!
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My team doesn't treat members by grade. We're all treated equally no matter what our skill levels are.
First year members can learn what second year member knows very quickly. So they don't have any specific "simple" jobs...
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