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Unread 18-02-2004, 06:32
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Re: Freshman Positives

When you guys talk about freshmen, do you mean 9th graders or first year members? Our team doesn't care at all about age. However, we usually do care about years on the team. I can't stand it when new people come in and act like they know everything. We treat productive freshmen the same way as everyone else. As for excesively ambitous new people, we have one rule:what happens in the hotel, stays in the hotel...
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Unread 18-02-2004, 08:48
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Re: Freshman Positives

Last year, our two freshmen were by far some of the best workers we had. One of them was probably there more than I was In my mind, it's all about how much they want to learn and get involved. If a freshman (or any new member) wants to just stand around and do nothing, then he or she can spend the six weeks playing fetch and filing corners on the frame. If, on the other hand, they want to get involved, I'm happy to teach them. The freshman I mentioned above is now the electrical team leader, as well as the overall project manager because of her involvement last year.

So, the moral of the story is, don't just beat up on your freshmen. They can be a valuable asset if they're motivated and you help them get involved. Of course, there's nothing wrong with the occasional search for an adjustable Allen wrench
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Unread 18-02-2004, 08:59
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Re: Freshman Positives

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Last year, our two freshmen were by far some of the best workers we had. One of them was probably there more than I was In my mind, it's all about how much they want to learn and get involved. If a freshman (or any new member) wants to just stand around and do nothing, then he or she can spend the six weeks playing fetch and filing corners on the frame. If, on the other hand, they want to get involved, I'm happy to teach them. The freshman I mentioned above is now the electrical team leader, as well as the overall project manager because of her involvement last year.

So, the moral of the story is, don't just beat up on your freshmen. They can be a valuable asset if they're motivated and you help them get involved. Of course, there's nothing wrong with the occasional search for an adjustable Allen wrench
As a freshman, I never spoke up that much, so I was pushed aside. Some kids leared motors, others building and pnumatics. I learned non of those skills. Instead, I focused my attention on scouting and stratagey, that's something I really liked. I had fun and now I'm catching up on my building skills. For us, we need more frosh. Next year, I'm counting only 2 seniors, 5 juniors, and NO SOPHMORES AND FRESHMAN. That's right, we're screwed over!

As for getting things that arn't there, I always send people out to go get some elbow grease and headlight fluid.
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Re: Freshman Positives

we have one senior, 2 juniors, 17 sophomores, and 3 freshman.. yeah kinda weird isnt it. Oh yeah.. abbout my above post. Theres only 1 freshman on the team who deserves to play fetch. This is becuase he has broken hafl our parts and never stops talking about counter strike. I actually took one of the other freshman on as a "padawan", making him follow me everywhere and teaching him what different things are and how to use different machines.

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Re: Freshman Positives

heehee i'm a freshman but practically the whole team had said that i'm the "freshman who doesnt act like a freshman" to the point where i'm not even considered a freshman anymore, i'm "so awesome" that i'm automatically a 'senior' lol. kinda.. weird but still pretty cool... i'm just happy the team actually likes me/accepts me for who i am. :-D
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Re: Freshman Positives

I'm a freshman and I am the only one on my team that knows 3ds max.
(Actually, someone else does but he is the CAD lead; I'm left to do our animation). Oh exciting deadlines.
Well hope that disproves some generalizations.
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Re: Freshman Positives

we have zero freshman..
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Re: Freshman Positives

Half of FIRST is work ethic. The other is brains. We have some members who can think forever, but get tired after 4 turns of a wrench. A lot of mindless sweat goes into a robot. We had a young guy last year who would do whatever needed to be done regardless of its glamour. Thats cool.
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Re: Freshman Positives

heehe.....lol alex.....i know i know...the jokes are kinda mean but they are funny..... i mean when you are a freshmen this is basically what happens, because freshmen dont really know much....but as we sat there filing filing filing....or hack sawing hacksawing hacksawing something....we were happy it was something new and exciting and since it requires so little brain activity while we did it we actually learned something... by watching the other people.
also freshmen can have some good ideas in the design phase...although sometimes there are a lot of things like 8 stage telescoping arms, etc...

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Re: Freshman Positives

We came up with a few freshman ideas!

1. Tie one tool to each freshman and train them to answer to the tool name. Then tie them to a wall so they can't wander off.
2. Give them to other teams at compitions so they can cheer for those teams in exchange for spare parts.
3. Have them file stuff.
4. Train them in the ways of the team.
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Re: Freshman Positives

I remember this one time sending a freshmen out to get headlight fluid and a tube of elbow grease :sigh : good times....

of course I also remember the time my team had me get a 4/16 wrench ( I spent half an hour until I realized it was a 1/4) and I am only gald that I can be part of keeping the tradition going!
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Re: Freshman Positives

I love freshman. They are usually really willing to learn. Lots of times we use the phrasing "rookie" or "freshman" when they do something wrong i.e. "oops i forgot right was tight" *shakes head and say "freshman"

Most of our freshman are really great, one is the only one who knows entirely how to run the CNC machine and Mastercam (we LOVE him, he doesn't deburr very much) and willing to listen. But sometimes they don't know exactly what to do and stand there, so you have to take them in.

This is a little of topic, but two of our freshman on animation were a LOT mischivioius and deleted the almost finished animation (on purpose, they thought it didn't look good, LONG complicated story) and little discplinary action was taken, but we're working on that. So if you see our animation, it was done in like 2 days, not EVEN, its really really good for deleting it (even from the trash bin, so it was really hard recover) But they kinda alienate themselves......

anyway, i like MOST freshman
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Re: Freshman Positives

Ok its been 5 or 6 months since i started this so lemme just say its turned way too philoshical. too lazy to spell check that one. but my point is lost from me so just keep doing what your doing
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tell them to get chain for the gears.....
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Re: Freshman Positives

it all depends on how you look at this. Yes, most freshmen who join the team are slackers, and they don't know the level of commitment they are pledging when they join, but there are few who are elite, who are even better at what thay do than older people on the team that make fun of the younger members. I don't think that freshman should be used for the grunt work, and this has nothing to do with the fact that I am one, it's just common morals you learn in kindergarten.
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