Traction trouble

[andy]

Lemme elaborate James,

We have roughly 130 ft/lbs of torque per wheel, we move at a top speed of about 8 ft/sec. We have plenty of power, but we cannot get the power to the ground, we are doing burnouts and skidding on carpet. We are looking into other wheel options, we are looking at things like gokart slicks and solid urathane skyways.

Thoughts?

-Andy

[Solace]

skyway sells a version of some of its pneumatic wheels where the air tube is replaced by a hard foam insert. they have excellent traction, but I'm not sure that you can get it with the big wheels (ours our only 6")

[ngreen]

Originally Posted by andy

Lemme elaborate James,

We have roughly 130 ft/lbs of torque per wheel, we move at a top speed of about 8 ft/sec. We have plenty of power, but we cannot get the power to the ground, we are doing burnouts and skidding on carpet. We are looking into other wheel options, we are looking at things like gokart slicks and solid urathane skyways.

Thoughts?

-Andy

My thoughts would be two front gokart slicks and then for the back have a wheel with lots of forwards traction but not much side to side traction so you can turn. We used 4 gokart slicks last year. See the picture. We ended up putting caster on cyclinders to drop down when we wanted to turn a lot. We were reseting breakers. So these would be great for the front but find a better way for them to slide in back with out giving up the traction forwards. Maybe fully inflating them would help some though.

[andy]

Hey all, thanks for the input!

We are using two drive wheels with two skids on the rear.
(we're using skids cuz we thought we wouldnt be able to skid stear-have had bad experiences in the past)
Today I came up with a new concept. Put another set of drive wheels just behind the others. That way we have the best of three worlds: we have great traction, turning ability (because the wheels are close together), and we can drive in straight lines easier. Also it is narrower then the gokart slicks so that we can still drive up the stairs and make it around the goal.

Try my poor ASCI drawings

where
() = wheel
v = skid
- = frame

*current side view*
()-------v

*proposed side wiew*
()-()----v

This option would be very easy to add to our robot and would add only about 10 pounds of weight and it just so happens we have weight to spare.

By the way, who is your supplier for the gokart slicks? I've had the hardest time finding them on the internet. Thanks!

Thoughts? Opinions?

Thanks
-Andy

[ngreen]

Its a local distributor but I am not sure where they get them from. It was all by accident last year too. We wanted knobby tires and after we ordered them we got the slicks back. But the worked great. I like your new idea a lot. We do have traction problems but we need the traction to get over the step. Good luck.