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[Ben.V.293]

what kind of forum web site is this when a good topic of debate comes up it is shut down? I loved following the thread and the opinions of the people in it for the few short days it was up. Why would there be any reason at all to shut down such an interesting thread? What ever happended to free speach and the right to your own opinion? and if this thread is reopened in a moderated version than that would be just plain rediculous. Its not like people in the thread were insulting or threating each other. Why would there be a need for a moderator anyway? and another thing, i have seen posts delibretly altered by you (yes i mean you brandon martus) to change the opinion the post displays from that of the writer to your own opinions. Isn't that a little illegal there buddy? some things about this site just don't make sense to me. please reopen this thread and never shut down another thread for such reasons ever again. Now that i said something bad about this site im sure my precious single reputation point is down the drain and the chiefdelphi hit squad is heading twoards my house right now but i just can't stand back and say nothing when theres something to be said.

[Andy Baker]

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

Why would there be any reason at all to shut down such an interesting thread? What ever happended to free speach and the right to your own opinion? and if this thread is reopened in a moderated version than that would be just plain rediculous. Its not like people in the thread were insulting or threating each other.

The thread was shut down for good reasons. People were getting a bit out of control, calling good teams cheaters and saying slanderous things. Actually, things got so out of control so quickly during a time when many moderators did not notice the thread getting ridiculous. 60 and 254 were being straightforward and upfront on everything, and they got slapped around for it many times. That is unfortunate. Personally, I am sorry that I didn't catch it earlier and tried to help stop the action.

As for the site, you can't just post what you want on here. This is ChiefDelphi's site, and Brandon is in control as webmaster. You need to back off. There is no illegality of censorship here. Get a clue.

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

I truly hate this site and all of the people that post on it.

That is just lovely. This will make us all respect your opinion greatly. So why do you waste your time posting on here if you feel this way?

Andy B.

[Brandon Martus]

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

and another thing, i have seen posts delibretly altered by you (yes i mean you brandon martus) to change the opinion the post displays from that of the writer to your own opinions.

Send me a PM with an example. I don't remember doing so, but I could be wrong.

Isn't that a little illegal there buddy?

Not according to the rules (that you agreed to), it isn't.

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

Why would there be a need for a moderator anyway? and another thing, i have seen posts delibretly altered by you (yes i mean you brandon martus) to change the opinion the post displays from that of the writer to your own opinions....

The reason we need moderators is because of people like you. Brandon, along with all of the other moderators, do a GREAT job on these forii. If any post is edited for content, it is not to change the poster's point of view or opinion, it is for appropriateness and content. If you posted a something with a link to a website that could contain "adult content", it is not unthinkable for a moderator to put a note on the end of the post saying "this site contains adult content, view at your own risk, etc, etc." I can't imagine someone posting something and Brandon editing it to say "Wait, just kidding - I really meant to say this which is exactly what Brandon Martus thinks and completely opposite of my previous view."

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

I truly hate this site and all of the people that post on it.

So why are you even here, if you hate the site so much? If you have such strong negative feelings towards all of us, why don't you just leave?

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

when dean and woody started this organization im sure they did not expect to create a whole community of nice ninkempoops that constantly blabber about gracious profesionalism and immediatly shoot down anyone who has an opinion other than that of their own.

I'll agree with you on one point - Dean and Woody did not intend on creating a group of people who shoot down other people's opinions. Thank God that didn't happen! Gracious professionalism is a big thing in FIRST - it's one of the things that sets it apart from every other competition! I'm glad we have the "nincompoops" that blabber about gracious professionalism. At least they're getting the idea out there.

Originally Posted by Ben.V.293

i said it before and i'll say it again EVERYONE has the right to their own opinion

And thank you for sharing yours.