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Unread 10-01-2004, 15:24
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Exotic Materials List?

I have not been able to find any evidence that they are limiting materials this year by having an exotic materials list. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

Raul, on page 9 of 21 in the Kit of Parts Rules Section 5.3.1.4 <R70> Materials not allowed - "Materials classified as hazardous by their MSDS sheets." Looks like the Additional Materials list is wide open as long as <R68> "Additional parts must be generally avail. from suppliers such that any other FIRST team , if it so desires, may also obtain them at the same price." Also, must be able to fit into $3500 cost to build the robot. Looks like Carbon Fiber and Titanium may be legal this year, other than their cost. Hope this helps. Good luck this year! Can't wait to see what you guys dream up this year!
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

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I have not been able to find any evidence that they are limiting materials this year by having an exotic materials list. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
I read through, and haven't seen any such list, either. The only limitation I saw was "hazardous materials."
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

My first thought was that finally we could put precious gems on our robot. Finally.

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No Matt...no gems...!!! maybe except diamonds...and carbon nanotube stuff....
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

Does that include cetain metals? eg. Titanium?
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

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Does that include cetain metals? eg. Titanium?
As stated above, there is no "exotic materials list" that restricts what materials you can use. There was one last year, but there is no such list this year. So, Titanium is perfectly legal.
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

Our team used a titanium stress point reduction system. This allowed us to make the system strong while still keeping the machine light.
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

FIRST did say use common sense, as long as the material is not dangerous and does not exceed the spending limit you are ok, right?

Besides what exotic material were you planning on using?
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

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FIRST did say use common sense, as long as the material is not dangerous and does not exceed the spending limit you are ok, right?

Besides what exotic material were you planning on using?
*cough cough* magnesium...*cough cough*
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

Is this just a bunch of bull or what?

Can you use things like titanium, etc. on the robot?
If so what limitations/rules do you have to follow to do it (price wise, type, etc.)?

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READ the rules ... USE the flowchart ...
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Re: Exotic Materials List?

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Is this just a bunch of bull or what?

Can you use things like titanium, etc. on the robot?
If so what limitations/rules do you have to follow to do it (price wise, type, etc.)?

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See 5.3.2.1. and 5.3.2.2.

It can't cost more than $400 dollars.

It can't weigh more than 130 lbs. (obviously)

It can be hazardous (get those MSDS sheets out!)

If it meets those criteria, check the flowchar to be sure (twice, if necessary.)

If it's still good, feel free to use it.
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