Quickest 2 mins in first

[Ken Leung]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

I was talking to a few teams and this year the 2 mins just do not seem long enough. Maybe it is because of all the tasks there are this year but this game i think need to be played in 2:30 rounds.


shaun team 25

Well. Considering there is a 15 seconds autonomous mode, the real match time is really 1:45. Looking back at 2000, if the game was 1:45 min, it would've been a little too short. In my opinion, it should be 15 secs autonomous mode and 2 mins driver time, because I feel that the matches are too short for teams to do things.

With 1:45 min, I can see a robot get a big ball, and go hang, or push small balls into human player chute, and hang. With 2 mins, teams can do 2 of the following: control mobile goal, get big ball and cap, push small balls to human player, or defend the steps. Right now, the match is so short that there aren't many defense going on. Everyone is trying to finish that 1 task and go hang.

On the other hand, it is going to take a long time to reset a match. Considering it takes 2 mins a match, 1 minutes of counting score, 1.5 mins of taking robot off the bar and clearing the field, 1.5 mins of reseting balls and setting up robots for next match, that is a 6 mins cycle already. Not to mention it won't be so smooth on the first day. 5 mins is the standard match cycle last year, 7 is what we used at off season when people weren't trained. I would be really worried to see 7 min match cycle through out the season.

So. Would a little longer match be fun? Maybe. Is it realistic to change the match length? Not really. Could it be something to be brought up at the next team forum? Most definitely.

[ebmonon36]

Originally Posted by Ken Leung

Well. Considering there is a 15 seconds autonomous mode, the real match time is really 1:45. Looking back at 2000, if the game was 1:45 min, it would've been a little too short. In my opinion, it should be 15 secs autonomous mode and 2 mins driver time, because I feel that the matches are too short for teams to do things.

I like having the 15 seconds autonomous and the 1:45 drive time. It forces teams who want to do a lot to use that autonomous time wisely and really think about what they are going to do during that time. Then the team must be able to determine what to do to win the match in the 1:45 left. It keeps teams on their feet. These 2 minutes aren't supposed to be a cakewalk. I think FIRST wants us to struggle with getting things done in the 2 minutes. It's kind of like build season...It's long enough to get a bot running and a function to work, but if you want to do more, it can be a struggle to get it done.
Eric

[Greg Perkins]

one thing i noticed about the BAE one...


they only gave us like 1:20 seconds for practice matches. that was pretty short for all the tasks we had to do...