Penalty Points at Regionals?

[Gary Dillard]

Try reading the game rules - section 4.4.3 discusses penalty flags and points all through it.


http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/4-T...corporated.pdf

[Andy Baker]

Yep... most of the penalties in Portland were due to robots entering the corral area.

Many teams added vertical parts to their "wings" or front of their robots in order to keep their robots from breaking the plane.

As head ref in Portland, we were strict with all teams on this issue. I would guess that about 4-5 matches were close enough to be decided by just one of these penalties.

As the weekend progressed, we threw less flags for this, as teams drove better and added parts.

Believe it or not, we did not see one case of goal tending.

Andy B.

[Rick]

At BAE, one team got 4 penalties while trying to herd ONE BALL. Even if it would have gone in that is still a 35 point loss. almost all of the ones at BAE came from robot in ball corral.

[Joe Matt]

Durring one match one team was using the big ball to assis the balls into their goals. I don't know if that was caught by the refs, but I know many teams still don't know the rules.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by JosephM

Durring one match one team was using the big ball to assis the balls into their goals. I don't know if that was caught by the refs, but I know many teams still don't know the rules.

That one was caught by the refs, and the team penalized.

If I recall correctly, like Portland, I don't think that there was one case of goaltending called during the VCU regional. Either everyone has decided that capping the opposing goals just isn't worth the effort, or everyone has become so paranoid about goaltending after all the discussions that they are scared off. Either way, it doesn't appear to be a problem.

-dave

[Ilyushin269]

I'm pretty sure ball popping is issue to a penalty. I know I rolled on a ball and ended up popping it and got 10-20 points deducted. Also I saw a 2X ball get popped by another team too.

[nuggetsyl]

Originally Posted by dlavery

That one was caught by the refs, and the team penalized.

If I recall correctly, like Portland, I don't think that there was one case of goaltending called during the VCU regional. Either everyone has decided that capping the opposing goals just isn't worth the effort, or everyone has become so paranoid about goaltending after all the discussions that they are scared off. Either way, it doesn't appear to be a problem.

-dave

I am thinking there are a few reasons why teams have not gaoltended.

1.Human player are scoring there 6 balls so fast you do not want to give them 2x

2. there robot can not pick up the x2 ball well, so if they do pick up a ball they not going to score for other team

3. games are soooooo close in points you can not take -10 points

[Justin Stiltner]

One issue that I still fail to see why a penalty flag was thrown was this.
During the finals match at vcu our robot #388 goal capper was tipped to the side and our arm came to rest on the railing around the field, we dident touch anything outside the field at any time, and a penalty flag wasent thrown then, however after looking at the robot for a few seconds while determining how to stand it back up we lowered our arm, wich pulled it back into the field and began extending our grippers also inside the field in an attempt to raise us, still dident touch anything outside the field, well the grippers dident have the power to stand us back up so we begin to retract our gripper and lower our arm completely in so as to get it out of the way, and we called our alliance partner (team 33 )over to try and help us stand back up, then and only then does a ref decide to throw a 25pt penalty flag and have us disabled no part of our robot ever touched anything outside of the field evean without this peanilty we wouldent have won that match, however we may have been able to stand up and win it. it just worries me that they disabled a robot that was still in bounds and had done nothing illegeal.