Declining

[Korbin]

I was watching the VCU broadcast, and during the alliance selection there was a team selected, that was not one of the alliance captains, and they declined, I was wondering, why would anyone do this? Am I wrong remembering that this is giving up a chance to continue on in the competition?!?!

[Cory]

There is one time when a team would do this. If their robot was broken beyond repair, they would decline an invitation to the elimination rounds, so that they wouldnt screw over the picking team.

Cory

[Elgin Clock]

As far as decling goes, the info that was announce today at NJ regional was:

If you are in the top 8 and are a "picking" alliance, then you can decline and still accept as a member of another alliances request for you to join them.

If you are a Number 9 ranked team or below, once you decline you can NO LONGER be chosen!

[Tristan Lall]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

As far as decling goes, the info that was announce today at NJ regional was:

If you are in the top 8 and are a "picking" alliance, then you can decline and still accept as a member of another alliances request for you to join them.

If you are a Number 9 ranked team or below, once you decline you can NO LONGER be chosen!

Originally Posted by Section 7.4.1

If the team accepts, it is moved into that Alliance. If the team declines, it is not
eligible to be picked again and the Alliance Captain extends another invitation to a different team.

According to the rules, that's not correct. Any team that declines may not be picked again. If however, they are (or become) a picking team, they may still form part of an alliance.

[kjohnson]

I don't remember what team declined but I thought that was weird too. Maybe a lot of their members got sick and they wanted to go home and not stay and compete any more.

[Rich Kressly]

The only other time I witnessed such a decline was in Epcot 2002. I believe that too was a broken robot situation.

[trev2023]

Originally Posted by nukemknight

I don't remember what team declined but I thought that was weird too. Maybe a lot of their members got sick and they wanted to go home and not stay and compete any more.

I believe it was one of the "bee" teams with yellow shirts on. There were 3 I think and one of them was 33, so that wasn't them, but I distinctly remember them wearing yellow shirts.

On a side note, I was just wondering if you encountered a situation where you were #9 ranked team and 1 picked 2, etc. and you were invited to another team and you declined, would you still become the #8 alliance captain?

[David Kelly]

Originally Posted by nukemknight

I don't remember what team declined but I thought that was weird too. Maybe a lot of their members got sick and they wanted to go home and not stay and compete any more.

Team 33, Killer Bees (alliance 3), declined an invitation from alliance 2 at VCU and they ended up winning the regional!!

[ultramrw21]

Yeah, 435 gave 33 an offer but they declined. Maybe its because we called them 333?

[KenWittlief]

I think that any team that declines the invitation to be in the elim rounds should get some sort of recognition or honor

we would all love to continue to play after the seeding matches - for a team to stand up and say "we are having problems with our bot, you will be better off picking someone else" has got to be one of the highest forms of true sportsmanship!

[Gui Cavalcanti]

For the record, it was team 836, the Robobees. I don't know why they declined, though.

[kjohnson]

Originally Posted by trev2023

On a side note, I was just wondering if you encountered a situation where you were #9 ranked team and 1 picked 2, etc. and you were invited to another team and you declined, would you still become the #8 alliance captain?

The #1 seed picked us, the #2 seed and we accepted. When we accepted #1's offer, they were still the head and we lost our head position which bumped everyone else up one. So 9 became 8. Lets say 8 was invited by 4. 8 declines. They would still be seed 8 and and 4 would just have to pick again.
Make any sense? So yes, if 8 declined they would still be head of that alliance.

[kjohnson]

Originally Posted by David Kelly

Team 33, Killer Bees (alliance 3), declined an invitation from alliance 2 at VCU and they ended up winning the regional!!

Yeah - if 165 Das Goat hadn't picked us, we would have asked 33. Well that was our plan. I don't think we were expecting 165 to ask us but I wasn't in the pits when all this talking about alliances was going on so I shouldn't say anything.

[ErichKeane]

This brings up an interesting question taht almost came up at the NJ regionals. My team, 219, ranked #2, was Picked 2nd time through by the #8 seed team (go figure). Now, since we already had an alliance, and were ranked #2, we declined of course.

Now, the question we considered later: Say 1st time through, every team picks their alliance mate #1.

Then, 2nd time through seed #1 picks seed #2, who already has an alliance mate.
1- would this be allowed to happen?
2- what would happen to the alliance mate?

[MissInformation]

Here is why the team declined: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26441

It must have been a heartbreaking decision to make, but they did the right thing and should be proud of that.

Heidi