"Playing Cheap"

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Originally Posted by SkitzoSmurf

After my first regional this year, I am kind of dissapointed with the way that some teams are playing. They either get up the ramp during autonomous or immediately after, and then hang. Serving no purpose other than an extra fifty points. I am really confused with the teams that have both alliance partners hang at once. It's not even a competition after that. The two robots are hogging the bar, they have a hundred points, and maybe twenty from human players, and the apposing alliance is struggling to get all the blue balls they can in the goals, and capping them with a doubler. Say they have ten balls, cap it with a doubler, they will only have a hundred points, while the double hanging alliance needs just one blue ball to defeat them by five lousy points. Do you people see what I mean? These teams are not raising the bar, they are lowering it. And it REALLY confuses me when these teams that serve one purpose, (hanging), recieve all the awards.
<~~~~~~ CONFUSED!!!
P.S. I am not trying to insult anyone

You did watch the Killer Bees, didn't you?

It all depend on how you design, but a small bot ball that if well designed can easily outscore a hanging bot.

18 5 pt balls in the stationary goal uncapped is almost equal to two hanging robots. So its not like FIRST set an arbitrary number. They put one where a hanging bot could do well but a good small ball bot would do better. You get what you design. Most small ball bots have the problem of beating hanging bots because they are designed inefficiently for what they are supposed to do while the hanging bots are more efficient. They can only hang once and they are hanging once. It's like a quarterback passing efficiency rating, 1 attempt, one touchdown. Robot's not designed well with the small balls may be more in the range of 4-5 attempts per completion and then you get the touchdown depending on if the HP makes the shot. Not quite as efficient. Small bot robots are like a west coast offense though so they have a lot more attempts and can complete a lot more passes for more overall points. You just want to have that high efficiency to go with it.

Okay. I'm done.