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MPLAB + Windows 28 66.67%
Makefile + Windows 5 11.90%
Linux + WINE 5 11.90%
Linux + MPLAB 1 2.38%
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

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horray for vim, the true "programmer's text editor"
*cheers* Yup! Nothing like it.
(you know youve been coding with vim too long when you start hitting j and k when your on the web... Thank heaven FireFox knows to start searching when you hit /)
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*cheers* Yup! Nothing like it.
(you know youve been coding with vim too long when you start hitting j and k when your on the web... Thank heaven FireFox knows to start searching when you hit /)
no, you know you've been using vim to long when you start typing :w for no reason at all into your word documents at school....
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Actually, I find vim scary.

My team used MPLAB + Windows since I was the only one with Linux on their machine. Plus, I didn't find out until later that others got the IFI_Loader to work with WINE with no major problems.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

afaik, the ifi loader still doesn't work through wine. A new one was coded from scratch to do the job.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

Same thing.
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I used the MPLAB IDE with windows cuz I was way to lazy to use anything else, I mean most of my code is just the default; My team was kinda picky about having it working b4 we shipped;
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

The bot barely worked when we shipped. And the code was screwed up so badly that the controller gave us a red-green. (RGOD!) Or an infinate loop.
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Thats nothing all our robot did when we shipped it was spin in a circle. cuz the stupid build team put one of the fricking moters in backwards. I think that when we get there i can download a code that works but we will literally be testing it on our bot for the first time then. If anything goes wrong i am sure that all you programers out there know that it is me who will be blamed for screwing it up, even though if the builders whould have put it in right it would not have been a problem.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

Our situation is sort of weird. I definitely like where we went with the robot and if it turns out correctly, look out for Miss Daisy. We didn't make too many modications to the code, not enough to warrant switching from Windows or anything. The problem is that our code hadn't been tested with the robot at all before we shipped. But we have some good programmers and I think that we will definitely turn out okay. See ya at Chesapeake.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

Wow, I didn't realize how many teams actually had code that didn't work at ship. This is my first year competing.

Surprisingly, even though we are rookies, we still got all our OI code tested and our main automous mode.
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Vim? Fwah.

I used vi (not vim) and make. Not GNU make either. Microsoft NMAKE.

If I had access to a Mac, I would use Subethaedit, but I don't. If somebody were to port Subethaedit to Windows, I would regard them in the ranks of Cerf.
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I voted for MPLAB, but I just did MSC++ .NET, and I'm really happy. Now that's an IDE.
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Vim? Fwah.

I used vi (not vim) and make. Not GNU make either. Microsoft NMAKE.

If I had access to a Mac, I would use Subethaedit, but I don't. If somebody were to port Subethaedit to Windows, I would regard them in the ranks of Cerf.
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As my old signature used to say, "I'm not anti-Microsoft, I'm just pro-quality."

Yeah, MSC++ .NET is great (surprisingly, a good Microsoft product). The only reason I didn't use it is MPLAB allowed quick access to the compiler, while MSC++ .NET isn't custimizable for that sort of thing. Next year I'm going to find something better for our controls team to use.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

I use ActiveState's Komodo a lot, otherwise Eclipse is worth a good look. Both are available under Linux or Windows. KDevelop under Linux is also worth a good look.

A lot of bots didn't work right off the bat at the early competitions, because people didn't follow the latest IFI/FIRST news about software updates and weird initial states upon RC startup.

As for NMAKE, it's piece of $@#$@#$@#$@#. Gnu MAKE is available for Windows as well. Though I think it's high time that somebody come out with a better MAKE one of these days.
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Re: Development enviroments orther than MPLAB

I got our code working the day of shipping this year (goes to show how having access to the robot is a good thing eh). Last year however, we never really had the time to test, so we got to our regonal, and didn't move for hte first 2 practice matchs. Seems auto code didn't work right, go figure.
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