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Re: GLR Update 2004

Thank you and cutiebethy and zitz2k and the rest who commented on our robot.. its very nice of you
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Re: GLR Update 2004

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...I must say that the competiveness of the regional was not like the Great Lakes Regional in the past. ...
I disagree. The teams were the same great teams. I believe that the "problem" if anything was that this game is REALLY HARD. Beyond that, this game is hard on robots. All those time outs were not to let motors cool down -- climbing stairs and hanging from 10 foot high bars beats your robot up!



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... 1241 is THE best rookie robot that FIRST has EVER seen in my opinion....
I concur. This team "gets it."

They came out out of the chute like gangbusters. Look for great things from this team later this season and in future years.

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Re: GLR Update 2004

i would like to pose an interesting possibility. Imagine 1241 and their autonomous action...the positioning under the abll drop and the opening of their net. Than imagine team 33 (The killer bees from Auburn Hills). They have an extremely effective hopper, and also a well functioning autonomous during which they can knock off both multipliers. Imagine these two teams together. Out goes the 1241 net, down come the balls (during autonomous pof course) and 33 heads to the other side of the field. As soon as human control strats they begin sucking up balls. By the time they have finished with the balls from their opponents ball drop 1241 has dumped their load and uncapped the mobil goal. 33 dumps their balls and (since the stationary is of course being filled by 1241's AWESOME human player) begins pumping balls into the mobil goal. 1241 proceeds to cap the stationary and leaves the full mobil goal uncapped. Amazing isnt it? The only way to stop this alliance would be to know exactly what side of the field each robot would start, and then have an autonomous mode that could move BOTH before they completed their functions. Remember the time for the unfold is about 3 secons, and 33 takes 5-6 to knock off the tee balls. Any thoughts?
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Re: GLR Update 2004

that would be very interesting indeed. if it would work.. that would be soooo cool




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i would like to pose an interesting possibility. Imagine 1241 and their autonomous action...the positioning under the abll drop and the opening of their net. Than imagine team 33 (Buzz from Auburn Hills). They have an extremely effective hopper, and also a well functioning autonomous during which they can knock off both multipliers. Imagine these two teams together. Out goes the 1241 net, down come the balls (during autonomous pof course) and 33 heads to the other side of the field. As soon as human control strats they begin sucking up balls. By the time they have finished with the balls from their opponents ball drop 1241 has dumped their load and uncapped the mobil goal. 33 dumps their balls and (since the stationary is of course being filled by 1241's AWESOME human player) begins pumping balls into the mobil goal. 1241 proceeds to cap the stationary and leaves the full mobil goal uncapped. Amazing isnt it? The only way to stop this alliance would be to know exactly what side of the field each robot would start, and then have an autonomous mode that could move BOTH before they completed their functions. Remember the time for the unfold is about 3 secons, and 33 takes 5-6 to knock off the tee balls. Any thoughts?
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Re: GLR Update 2004

hey 1241 =D. we are looking extremely forward to seeing your robot at CR. Based on what i have read here, it looks to be superb!
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Re: GLR Update 2004

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Also, 1241 is THE best rookie robot that FIRST has EVER seen in my opinion.... heck they won 3 awards in just one regional! So, congrats to the new Canadian team! !
Good, yes. Best ever...?, ehhhh. But then again I have my biases (refer to signature). And the rookie inspiration and highest rookie seed wasn't formed this year again for no reason.

I alway like to see a new team performing well. Congratulations and I can't wait to see all the winners and teams from GLR. You always produce some amazing machines.
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Re: GLR Update 2004

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i would like to pose an interesting possibility. Imagine 1241 and their autonomous action...the positioning under the abll drop and the opening of their net. Than imagine team 33 (Buzz from Auburn Hills). They have an extremely effective hopper, and also a well functioning autonomous during which they can knock off both multipliers. Imagine these two teams together.
All I can say is we're going to the canadian regional, maybe we'll be in the same division... Can you say small ball monopoly?

...And we're not buzz, we're the Killer Bees!


Oh, and we're hoping to get our Autonomous mode down to ~2-3 seconds, we just need to debug our gyro so the robot doesn't hit the wall before it hits the balls.
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Re: GLR Update 2004

now THAT would be interesting. We will probably have to do some modifications as well but wouldn't it be "nice" to be in an alliance together
But we as a team learnt our lesson that sticking to one strategy will never go unnoticed for a long time, so I'll just wish you all the best, team 33 and hope we will be your alliance partner in atleast one of the games at the CR.
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Re: GLR Update 2004

On behalf of Theory6, I thank all participating teams for receiving us with generosity and respect. Congratulations to teams 66, 279, and 322 for a well-deserved win, and to every team for making the Great Lakes Regional a memorable event. The Hot Team and TNT exhibited their experience and caught us unawares with clever strategies. Cheers to them!

GLR has been an unparalleled experience for my team, and great preparation for future competitions. It's been an honor.

On a fresh note, I should like to know how Team 279's mascot has such inexhaustible enthusiasm. When I meet him in the afterlife, I mean to ask him.
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Thanks to everyone at the GLR for making our time there a total Blast and taking notice of us!
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Fantastic Regional

It's been a while since I've been to GLR. I've heard that the later regionals like WMR have often been more exciting than Great Lakes, but it will be very hard for any regional to beat this event. The matches were extremely close and exciting, the event ran smoothly, and gracious professionalism was everywhere.

Yes, some of the usual veterans were missing (33, 47, 64, 288, etc), but the half dozen or so rookies really stepped up to the plate. Not only 1241, but teams like 1250, whose performance on the field and in the pit could serve as a fine example for any team. Another rookie of note is 1254 whom we helped encourage and start as a team - they did West Michigan proud by staying ahead of us in the rankings for most of the qualifying rounds.
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Re: Fantastic Regional

It was great to see a rookie team(1241) do so well, there's serious untaped potential in that bot for one with a working(ball dropping) auto mode. And to your human player, greaaaat shooting. Better luck next year, hopefully you will be coming back.
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Re: GLR Update 2004

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i would like to pose an interesting possibility. Imagine 1241 and their autonomous action...the positioning under the abll drop and the opening of their net. Than imagine team 33 (The killer bees from Auburn Hills). They have an extremely effective hopper, and also a well functioning autonomous during which they can knock off both multipliers. Imagine these two teams together. Out goes the 1241 net, down come the balls (during autonomous pof course) and 33 heads to the other side of the field. As soon as human control strats they begin sucking up balls. By the time they have finished with the balls from their opponents ball drop 1241 has dumped their load and uncapped the mobil goal. 33 dumps their balls and (since the stationary is of course being filled by 1241's AWESOME human player) begins pumping balls into the mobil goal. 1241 proceeds to cap the stationary and leaves the full mobil goal uncapped. Amazing isnt it? The only way to stop this alliance would be to know exactly what side of the field each robot would start, and then have an autonomous mode that could move BOTH before they completed their functions. Remember the time for the unfold is about 3 secons, and 33 takes 5-6 to knock off the tee balls. Any thoughts?
I would try to cap there goal and bury that yellow ball 2 foot into the PVC. I think this would limit the damage. One team might also pound the big ball into the mobile goal also. My thoughs.
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Re: GLR Update 2004

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i would like to pose an interesting possibility. Imagine 1241 and their autonomous action...the positioning under the abll drop and the opening of their net. Than imagine team 33 (The killer bees from Auburn Hills). They have an extremely effective hopper, and also a well functioning autonomous during which they can knock off both multipliers. Imagine these two teams together. Out goes the 1241 net, down come the balls (during autonomous pof course) and 33 heads to the other side of the field. As soon as human control strats they begin sucking up balls. By the time they have finished with the balls from their opponents ball drop 1241 has dumped their load and uncapped the mobil goal. 33 dumps their balls and (since the stationary is of course being filled by 1241's AWESOME human player) begins pumping balls into the mobil goal. 1241 proceeds to cap the stationary and leaves the full mobil goal uncapped. Amazing isnt it? The only way to stop this alliance would be to know exactly what side of the field each robot would start, and then have an autonomous mode that could move BOTH before they completed their functions. Remember the time for the unfold is about 3 secons, and 33 takes 5-6 to knock off the tee balls. Any thoughts?
I would think that such a ball dependent strategy would still be vulnerable to the mobile goal blocking strategy. Two hanger bots that can move the mobile goals across the field in autonomous mode and then move them in front of the players stations would seriously hurt this alliance. The bots would have to guard the goals the entire round to keep 33 from moving them, so it would come down to whether the two bots can hang quick, and if 33 an 1241 could score 100 points fast enough to counter. It'd still be an exciting, close game instead of a blowout.
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imagine if 1241 could hang

50 hanging points
x2 with the capped ball
100 points!!!

lol

(if only it worked that way )
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