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Unread 21-03-2004, 19:04
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Re: Ungracious and unprofessional...

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I am not sure when this took place if it was in the quarter finals or before.... But I am the driver of team 11 and I did push this robot away from the "Ball Waterfall" but I made sure as to not destroy the robot in any way. They then came to our alliance side and grabbed our balls that fell and tried getting to the other side. I once again blocked them from getting to thier side and someway or another did become immoble. Afterwards there was no confrontation at all until back in the pits where a driver from the opposing alliance went up to another member of the opposing alliance(from a different team obviously) about being pushed. Turns out I think that balls were being passed from one human player to another and hit the driver making him lose grip on the 2x ball. But Team 11 and our alliance partners were never yelled at or confronted.
I believe Fred is talking about another occurence- and I was right there when it happened. The way i saw it was, a proud mother of a rookie team saw this game differently than it really is. Many people view it as an non-battlebot competition, with NO contact at all. The reality is: there will be some contact, and please think before you speak.


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Unread 21-03-2004, 19:28
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Re: Ungracious and unprofessional...

I'm reminded of something Dean said at kickoff this year. Something like "some teams will cheat, some will not."

I saw a match in GLR where a team intentionaly knocked another team off of the bar. In the rules, it is stated that you cannot build a robot with the intent of damaging other robots. However, their robot was not built for the purpose of knocking other robots off. Besides, it says in the rules that you can't descore small balls, but it says nothing about knocking bots off the bar.

Which brings me back to what Dean said. This game is designed with the understanding that not all teams will play with both grace and professionalism. If a team knocks over your bot, whether it was accidental or not, they probably noticed. If it was intentional, then that team probably has interpeted the rules to say its okay. If the refs don't say anything, then neither should you. Leave that team to figure out gracious professionalism for themselves.

Besides, the best way to teach is through example.
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Re: Ungracious and unprofessional...

At UCF a robot tipped us over and then rammed us three times. The judges didn't call them for it but it sure was a mean thing to do. X3

In another match at UCF we were haning on the bar and another team grabbed onto our hook with theirs to try and knock us off, and it ended up breaking our hook and making us fall over. Our robot was fine because we built it to take that sort of thing. But the team did come over and apologize (mainly because they were also our next alliance). We fixed the hook in no time and were ready to go. I was really angry about it until I heard that they apologized. You'd be suprized how well that sort of thing works. =P

On a side note, our robot was not built to right itself up after falling, but here are examples of MIRACLES:
A) Our robot gets pushed off the platform when we're tring to hang by a good robot, and we land on a 2x ball. We use the 2x ball and our arm to right our selves up. We didn't have enough time to hang but it was really cool.
B) We were again pushed off of the platform, but we landed on a stationary goal. (Remember we did not build our robot to be able to right itself up) We open our 2x ball grippers throw our arm back and use the goal to right our selves. Get onto the platform, where we are pushed off AGAIN onto a stationary goal on the other side. We used the same strategy and righted our selves up got onto the platform and hanged anyway.

Wow James really can drive that robot well.
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