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I search for video to determine how many balls fell out 11 22.00%
I disqualify Redabot 12 24.00%
I disable Redabot 15 30.00%
I penalize Redabot for descoring balls with their robot 37 74.00%
I do nothing ... no violations 1 2.00%
I do something else ... please explain 10 20.00%
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Re: YMTC: Redabot accidentally breaks goal

I must be reading a different problem. The original problem statement from Lucien said "Redabot hooks onto the bar and begins pulling itself up." I don't see anything about Redabot intentionally grabbing the goal anywhere. Based on the problem statement given, and the title of the thread, I have to conclude that there is no INTENTIONAL damage to the field. Therefore, Rule <G25> does not apply.

Rule <G31> MAY apply, if the potential for additional damage exists (<G31> A referee may disable a robot that has damaged the playing field/carpet, barriers or anohter robot, if the referee feels that further damage is likely to occur.), which would cause Redabot to be disabled, and probably not complete the attempted pull-up to the bar.

But now what to do about the spilled 5-point balls (ahh, yes, back to the original problem)? As I see it, there are two options:

1) Rule <T01> clearly states the referees will not review any recorded matches. So, the referees can instead make an "as close as possible" estimation of the number of balls that fell out of the goal at the time it was broken. Blue gets credit for each of those balls, and Red is penalized 10 points for each ball that fell out and was de-scored (Rule <G20>). Blue gets credit for each ball they threw into the goal after the damage occurred, and then fell out. Red is not penalized for these balls (as at this point they are falling out due to existing field damage, and not due to Red's current actions). Hopefully, the results of the Blue ball credits and Red penalites will make for a clear winner. If the referees cannot make a reasonable estimation, or if the estimation results in a score that is too close and they are uncomfortable with making a close call based on an estimation, they can go for Option #2:

2) The referees make the call to replay the match. The field has been damaged to the point that it has interferred with game play, and the game cannot be accurately scored. Field damage/problems are the only allowable cause for replaying a match, and could be used in this case.

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