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I award Bluabot 50 points for hanging 19 79.17%
I award Redabot 50 points for hanging 9 37.50%
I do not award Bluabot any points for hanging 4 16.67%
I do not award Redabot any points for hanging 12 50.00%
I disable Redabot while Redabot is tugging on Bluabot 1 4.17%
I do something else ... please explain 3 12.50%
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Re: YMTC: Bluabot and Redabot hanging?

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It does not have to touch the bar. If you were to remove the lower robot with a vaporation gun or what not, the top robot would have been touching the bar and hanging. I would have called it fair.
Unless they were both on the same team...
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But, if this is true. Can anyone at all please point out in the rule book where it says this specifically?? Can you do that??? Anyone? Anyone at all??
I really need to know this.
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Re: YMTC: Bluabot and Redabot hanging?

I would check the updates, cause I knew an issue came up like this while I was reffing. I am definate about touching the connector though, that doesnt count (if that is the way it has been called during the matches).

Basically, when you get down to it, as long as it is called consistantly throughout all the matches, it is an even playing field, and therefore fair. But also, this assumes that no rules are broken in the rulebook by doing this.


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Re: YMTC: Bluabot and Redabot hanging?

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Basically, when you get down to it, as long as it is called consistantly throughout all the matches, it is an even playing field, and therefore fair. But also, this assumes that no rules are broken in the rulebook by doing this.
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Although I would tend to agree with this if you were only at 1 event, this leaves you disillusioned as far as the rules are concerened if you attend multiple events where the refs will more than likely be different people, and the rule here - fragile as it is - will be called two different ways. Therefore, NOT GOOD!!
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Re: YMTC: Bluabot and Redabot hanging?

I have attended two events thus far, and I have found that the way the head refs call things are very similar to each other. This is due partly to a conference call that ALL head refs participated in, making sure all were set on the rules.

I am sure that at the Championships, all the refs will be on the same level (I hope) therefore ensuring a level field on all the fields.


The thing you have to remember is that the refs are not professionals, and most of them did not go through a 6 week build period memorizing all the rules. As long as they are as fair as they can be to all the teams at thier event, i'd say it passes in my book.

But then again...rules are rules...

aggh...it is a tough topic

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Re: YMTC: Bluabot and Redabot hanging?

ok did some checking and i know d.lavery is lirking near by so maybe he can lend a helping hand.

I know hes around I can smell KK from where i'm sitting.

the only thing I found was the Definition of hanging. There is a rule for constituting how the robot is counted by hanging. I checked Section 4 which hosts the game rules and Section 7 which is the tournament rules and neither sections have a set rule unless I'm missing something


Maybe a person like Dave knows where this can be found.
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