LiVE from Chicago...(SOAP)

[Scott Shaw 237]

MidWest Regional Awards:
Regional Woodie Flowers Award- John Budish Team 537
Imagery Award- Team 217 - Thunderchickens
Leadership in Control Award- Team 447 - Team Roboto
Xerox Creativiy Award- Team 93 - New Apple Corps
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award- Team 111 - Wildstang
DaimlerChrystler Spirit Award- Team 1259 - Paradigm Shift
Friday's Judges Award- Team 1101 - The Mustangs
Rookie Inspiration Award- Team 1296 - ComauPico & Rockwall High School

Those are the Awards at the Midwest Regional on Friday. More competition and awards to come tomorrow.

[Elgin Clock]

All I am getting now at 7:20 EST is the newest in a series of tapes, "Sounds from a sleepy competition."
The test pattern is up, but every once in a while, you can hear people talking inaudibly, or laughing.

Nice.. I think I will leave this on all night and fall asleep to the sounds.


If anyone is there right now, and is reading this. Say something in the mic!!!!

[soap108]

Originally Posted by piotrm

wow! nice webcast indeed, but did anyone notice that results and standings are being shown at http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/Events/IL/matches.html and http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/Eve.../rankings.html ?

If you like to refresh your browser every 5 minutes then FIRST is the way to go. You'll find more details about the seeding on the SOAP site. This gives a much better understanding why a team is ranked where they are.
http://www.soap108.com/2004/events/il/seeding.cfm

Also, the seeding scroller in one window + webcast in the other = one really nice LiVE experience...so says quite a few people watching at home (see previous posts about IRI 2003).

Video from Friday is now at: http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2004/movies/il/


KA-108

[dhoffman]

I just arrived in chicago today to visit famliy and realized that the competition was going on! My team, 954, is going to the San Jose Regional next weekend. I was just wondering if anyone could let me know exactly where the regional is at Northwestern? We're staying very close to it, at the Hilton.

Thanks, David

[Frank Toussaint]

Originally Posted by dhoffman

I just arrived in chicago today to visit famliy and realized that the competition was going on! My team, 954, is going to the San Jose Regional next weekend. I was just wondering if anyone could let me know exactly where the regional is at Northwestern? We're staying very close to it, at the Hilton.

Thanks, David

David,

Here you go: http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2004...stSiteInfo.pdf

Frank

[piotrm]

Originally Posted by soap108

If you like to refresh your browser every 5 minutes then FIRST is the way to go. You'll find more details about the seeding on the SOAP site. This gives a much better understanding why a team is ranked where they are.
http://www.soap108.com/2004/events/il/seeding.cfm

Also, the seeding scroller in one window + webcast in the other = one really nice LiVE experience...so says quite a few people watching at home (see previous posts about IRI 2003).

Video from Friday is now at: http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2004/movies/il/


KA-108

Ahh. The scrolling thing is really nice! How does this SOAP thing work? Where is the information comming from? Is it a bunch of dedicated people sitting in at the events and getting the information as the match results are shown? How often is it updated? Is it faster than the FIRST site?

[soap108]

Originally Posted by piotrm

Ahh. The scrolling thing is really nice! How does this SOAP thing work? Where is the information comming from? Is it a bunch of dedicated people sitting in at the events and getting the information as the match results are shown? How often is it updated? Is it faster than the FIRST site?

Well, to make a long story long....

Well, over the years it has changed. It used to be we typed in manually, but sometimes had an incorrect match detail or had the red and blue alliances' team #'s swapped. We made sure to mark the matches as "super-unofficial".

In 2002-2003 some events we were able to have the FIRST db automatically push results into the SOAP db. That was 100% accuracy, even if they had to re-score a match.

This year we're back to manual, but the events 108 attends I dedicate myself to make sure all results are dead-on accurate. In fact, in Florida there were instances where I had to call FIRST to note an issue with their calculations. One turned out to be a false alarm, the other something they needed to correct. Having the SOAP as backup, in the words of one FIRST Staffer, is 'soooo reassuring that we will have an accurate event. I feel safer with you guys here.'

With the FIRST "ambitious overhaul" of the scoring in 2004, any SOAP push was dead last on their to-do list. It's unfortunate because our output (the web pages) has been tested rigorously the last 4 years because we have had so much re-use. The 1st three weeks of regionals could have been "posted" instantly instead of in week 4. Part of the problem is FIRST FTP's a data file after every match. This is inefficient. Our web page is dynamic depending on the data in the database. A simple refresh always shows the latest data. The bad side is right now we removed/archived our 2003 data so our 2003 web pages sort of don't exist. (Correctable though)

There's more to say, but the event is about to start...

KA-108

[J Flex 188]

hmm. is anyone not able to access the stream? I click on the link in CD and it gives me a 404 error, same with pasting the link into real player. not only that, i cant even access http://robotics.nasa.gov, http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics or the chicago.ram file.. its weird cause i noticed this on friday or thursday and just thought that it was a glitch for practice day.

[Phil 33]

If anyone is interested, here's the alliances
1. 292, 71, 383
2. 269, 45, 930
3. 27, 111, 74
4. 1259, 81, 101
5. 65, 648, 447
6. 525, 461, 554,
7. 217, 93, 107
8. 234, 469, 247

[soap108]

Originally Posted by Phil 33

If anyone is interested, here's the alliances
1. 292, 71, 383
2. 269, 45, 930
3. 27, 111, 74
4. 1259, 81, 101
5. 65, 648, 447
6. 525, 461, 554,
7. 217, 93, 107
8. 234, 469, 247

Yep, here too: http://www.soap108.com/2004/events/il/elim.cfm

Note we wont have elimination details or results LiVE. Sorry.
If someone reading this can track, that would be greatly appreciated!!!

Also, if you are attending a regional next week, pls PM soap108. We want to send you the FileMaker GUI we use to track the match details. If you can capture that data at your regional, then email us the file..........Or if you are at Nationals (who isn't) that could be very helpful to us also!

Regards,
KA-108

[soap108]

One other thing to mention- all the seedings and match results are 1:1 with FIRST's. Yeah! (Phew!)


KA-108

[Joel J]

Originally Posted by soap108

Yep, here too: http://www.soap108.com/2004/events/il/elim.cfm

Note we wont have elimination details or results LiVE. Sorry.
If someone reading this can track, that would be greatly appreciated!!!

Also, if you are attending a regional next week, pls PM soap108. We want to send you the FileMaker GUI we use to track the match details. If you can capture that data at your regional, then email us the file..........Or if you are at Nationals (who isn't) that could be very helpful to us also!

Regards,
KA-108

Ok, sure..

QF 1.1:
Red: 292, 71 (100)
Blue: 234, 469 (100)
Tie!

[JVN]

Dan Greene is my hero.
"It's a tie... can't get closer than that"

[Joel J]

QF 2.1:
Red: 1259, 81 (90)
Blue: 65, 648 (55)
Red wins!

[Jeff Rodriguez]

for the qualification matches i got the following words/phrases:

rocketman
muppet
whippet
sassy molassy
mushroom
annie oakley
palm tree
who shot my paw?
toilet plunger