Rigged partner assignments?

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by piotrm

Hope this explains some things and if anyone has a really good and fast algorithm that you think would be good, suggest it to FIRST (and I would also like to hear about it).

This whole issue was discussed at length last year at length. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19012 The most interesting posts are Nate Smith's at the very end.

[KenWittlief]

it seems like this is not a very good way to go- if you are aligned with 3 or 4 other excellent teams then your matches have a better chance of running up high scores, which affects your placement

and if you are always playing with or against very simple bots that cant score many points, you are not going to be ranked very high at the end of the qual matches

surely FIRST, with all the brainpower at its disposal, can find a way to make sure teams are not always playing in matches together all day long and ensure that enough time is allowed between matches to at least get a new battery and make any quick needed repairs.

there has to be at least ONE person in FIRST who is good at math :^)

im mean, come on now - even if you slip the teams by one match (2 minutes) that means one of the teams you played with last time will play one match before you next time, and one will play one match behind you next time - if you do that all day long you will play with different teams in every match - some are on a 40minute schedule, some are on 44, some are on 48 and some are on 52 - to make up for the difference you switch ends on saturday and move the other way.

[MikeDubreuil]

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

it seems like this is not a very good way to go- if you are aligned with 3 or 4 other excellent teams then your matches have a better chance of running up high scores, which affects your placement

and if you are always playing with or against very simple bots that cant score many points, you are not going to be ranked very high at the end of the qual matches

surely FIRST, with all the brainpower at its disposal, can find a way to make sure teams are not always playing in matches together all day long and ensure that enough time is allowed between matches to at least get a new battery and make any quick needed repairs.

there has to be at least ONE person in FIRST who is good at math :^)

im mean, come on now - even if you slip the teams by one match (2 minutes) that means one of the teams you played with last time will play one match before you next time, and one will play one match behind you next time - if you do that all day long you will play with different teams in every match - some are on a 40minute schedule, some are on 44, some are on 48 and some are on 52 - to make up for the difference you switch ends on saturday and move the other way.

Yeah I agree.... the constraint to this whole system is how much time is "enough." What's the constant's value set at in the program?

[piotrm]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

This whole issue was discussed at length last year at length. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19012 The most interesting posts are Nate Smith's at the very end.

Well it looks like it has been discussed but doesn't seem to have been resolved. One "Nate Smith" mentions he has the solution to all the problems but I fail to locate the algorithm used and considering that thread is kind of old, if the algorithm was now being used by FIRST, we shouldn't be having all these match list problems now. Or am I missing something?